St. Benedict Center NH

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Does anyone know of the current status of the St. Benedict Center in NH? I know that they recently had a priest given permission to hear confession and celebrate the TLM there given by the Bishop of Manchester. I haven’t been able to find any more current news regarding the Masses celebrated there. Anyone from that area know about how things are going or attend Mass there?
 
I don’t know from personal experience. I’ve heard though that they are just fine in status.

If the bishop says it’s ok to go, why worry?
 
newyorkcatholic said:
I don’t know from personal experience. I’ve heard though that they are just fine in status.

If the bishop says it’s ok to go, why worry?
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oh I agree, I haven’t been able to find anything official from the Bishop or the Diocese though…I have only read what the Center itself has posted.
 
When in doubt stay away.

Contact the diocese chancery.
 
St. Benedict’s Center in New Hampshire has not been reconciled with the greater church in the area.

They’re associated with Fr. Leonard Feeny and the concept of “No salvation outside the church.” When Fr. Feeny recanted his statement, the New Hampshire branch did not go with him.

However, the St. Benedict’s Center in Harvard (Still River) MA was once associated with the NH monastery, but have been reconciled to their bishop.
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I'm sorry that I don't have any official "source," my info just comes from visiting the Monastery in Massachusetts.


God Bless!
 
Domnall said:
St. Benedict’s Center in New Hampshire has not been reconciled with the greater church in the area.

They’re associated with Fr. Leonard Feeny and the concept of “No salvation outside the church.” When Fr. Feeny recanted his statement, the New Hampshire branch did not go with him.

However, the St. Benedict’s Center in Harvard (Still River) MA was once associated with the NH monastery, but have been reconciled to their bishop.
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I'm sorry that I don't have any official "source," my info just comes from visiting the Monastery in Massachusetts.


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Father Leonard Feeney did NOT “recant his statement.” Nonetheless, he was fully reconciled with the Church and received the Last Rites without recanting one iota of his adherence to “no salvation outside the Chruch.”
 
Lupe_Lu said:
Father Leonard Feeney did NOT “recant his statement.” Nonetheless, he was fully reconciled with the Church and received the Last Rites without recanting one iota of his adherence to “no salvation outside the Chruch.”
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You know, about 5 minutes after typing that I realized that recant was the wrong word to use :o

Regardless, the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire has not been reconciled.
 
Domnall said:
You know, about 5 minutes after typing that I realized that recant was the wrong word to use :o

Regardless, the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire has not been reconciled.
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Thanks for your clarification, I was confusing the two places.

It is important to know that Fr. Feeney did not have to recant his beliefs. They are supposedly legitimate way to understand Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. They are not the only way.

(I don’t know personally how to reconcile this with baptism of blood and desire, which are dogmatically taught by Trent. I just avoid the disussion.)
 
newyorkcatholic said:
Thanks for your clarification, I was confusing the two places.

It is important to know that Fr. Feeney did not have to recant his beliefs. They are supposedly legitimate way to understand Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. They are not the only way.

(I don’t know personally how to reconcile this with baptism of blood and desire, which are dogmatically taught by Trent. I just avoid the disussion.)
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Yeah, I generally avoid the argument too.

I read a bit about Fr. Feeny to clarify what I said earlier. Apparently he was excommunicated, and while excommunicated founded the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. When his excommunication was lifted, the MA, but not the NH branch went with him.
 
I believe this is the answer to your question:

“All friends and supporters of Saint Benedict Center are hereby informed that Father David Phillipson has been appointed to serve at Saint Benedict Center, Richmond. Father has been granted faculties by the Bishop of Manchester to offer Mass and hear confessions at the Center’s Immaculate Heart of Mary Chapel. Please join the Brothers and Sisters, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, in our gratitude to Bishop McCormack for approving our chapel as a place of Catholic worship and for allowing Father Phillipson to serve here.”

This is the link:

catholicism.org/very-good-news-a-new-priest-for-sbc.html

As you can see, they are approved as a place of Catholic worship by the local Bishop.
 
newyorkcatholic said:
(I don’t know personally how to reconcile this with baptism of blood and desire, which are dogmatically taught by Trent. I just avoid the disussion.)
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I don’t see how there is a problem at all. Those baptized by blood or desire are indeed baptized, and thus in the Church.

The real problem these days are the fact that most Catholics don’t accept the dogma “extra ecclesiam nulla salus” at all.

Add on top of that the total misunderstanding of the baptism of desire such that it is thought to mean the sanctification of someone who would have wanted to be baptized had he had been taught properly, or the sanctification of someone whom some other person would like to see baptized, etc.
 
wasserfall said:
I don’t see how there is a problem at all. Those baptized by blood or desire are indeed baptized, and thus in the Church.

The real problem these days are the fact that most Catholics don’t accept the dogma “extra ecclesiam nulla salus” at all.

Add on top of that the total misunderstanding of the baptism of desire such that it is thought to mean the sanctification of someone who would have wanted to be baptized had he had been taught properly, or the sanctification of someone whom some other person would like to see baptized, etc.
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My problem isn’t with baptism of blood/desire, really. My problem is how Fr. Feeney was allowed to reconcile while denying them … even though Trent taught them … I respect Fr. Feeney’s motivation to take EENS seriously but isn’t it heresy to deny baptism of blood/desire?
 
newyorkcatholic said:
My problem isn’t with baptism of blood/desire, really. My problem is how Fr. Feeney was allowed to reconcile while denying them … even though Trent taught them … I respect Fr. Feeney’s motivation to take EENS seriously but isn’t it heresy to deny baptism of blood/desire?
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Oh I see. Well maybe the Holy See knows something we don’t know.
Or maybe they were just treating Fr. Feeney with the same courtesy they treat priests who have other sorts of doubts about dogma.
 
For anyone that is still curious about this topic, because I am discerning religious and was curious, this summarizes the situation directly from the diocese website. I encourage all to read, but the short answer is that they are not recognized by the church canonically or any other way. But here is the link:
catholicnh.org/about/faq/#benedict
 
nbhart said:
For anyone that is still curious about this topic, because I am discerning religious and was curious, this summarizes the situation directly from the diocese website. I encourage all to read, but the short answer is that they are not recognized by the church canonically or any other way. But here is the link:
catholicnh.org/about/faq/#benedict
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Thanks for the post & link. This seems odd because I thought the Bishop eliminated a TLM in the area due to the availability of the TLM offered by the Saint Benedict Center in NH?? :confused:

I hope someone from the area can contribute to this thread. Thanks:)
 
I feel that there is a greater need for clarity about this community or rather their name. This community of “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary” is located in Richmond, New Hampshire. However, the community under the same name located in Still River, Massachusetts is in FULL communion and, thus, canonically recognized by the Church. They are a wonderful community. This is their website:
saintbenedict.com/
 
Megan7 said:
Thanks for the post & link. This seems odd because I thought the Bishop eliminated a TLM in the area due to the availability of the TLM offered by the Saint Benedict Center in NH?? :confused:

I hope someone from the area can contribute to this thread. Thanks:)
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I also hope someone form the area can contribute to this thread. I am wondering if what they say here is true. Supposedly in 2010 the Bishop of Mancester granted Fr. Phillipson faculties to hear confessions and offer Mass at the SBC chapel. If it is true, I wonder if anything has changed since then. catholicism.org/very-good-news-a-new-priest-for-sbc.html
 
If one is inquiring regarding the religious community of the “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary” (MICM ) in the general region:

The religious community of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (MICM ) at the Benedict Abbey in Still River, Massachusetts is recognized by the Diocese of Worcester.

In New Hampshire there is no religious community here recognized by Rome or the Diocese.

If one is inquiring regarding the availability of the Traditional Latin Mass (Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal) in the NH diocese; The NH diocese notes two Catholic parishes that offer the TLM where this is available (at least once a month). St Patricks Parish in Nashua, NH and St. John the Baptist Parish in Suncook, NH.

It has been noted before that Bishop Libasci has granted permission {to a priest in good standing} to celebrate Mass and hear Confessions at the approved worship space for workers, guests and those who reside at the Center.

Beyond this, the last paragraph of the statement by the Diocese makes it clear anything further is a work in progress.
The individuals who work and reside at Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, NH, are Catholic men and women who live in community according to their own chosen set of rules. Neither “Saint Benedict Center” nor the “Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary” enjoys any recognition, canonical or otherwise, in the Universal Roman Catholic Church or in the Diocese of Manchester.
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The Most Reverend Peter A. Libasci, Bishop of Manchester, has granted permission to a priest in good standing to celebrate Mass and hear Confessions at Saint Benedict Center for the residents and their guests. The Bishop has approved a recently constructed building as an appropriate worship space; his approval of the space does not change the status of Saint Benedict Center or the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The space has not been approved as a “chapel” or an “oratory,” and therefore cannot be referred to as a “chapel” or “oratory,” as those terms have particular meaning under Church law.
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Assisted by his delegate and by others, it remains Bishop Libasci’s sincere desire to continue to work with Saint Benedict Center to identify a way for the identity and the work of the Center to resonate with the mission of the Universal Church, and in particular, the Diocese of Manchester.
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