St Bernadette and Our Lady of Lourdes

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April 16th - Feast Day for St Bernadette

Today is a good day for this poll; Do you believe in the miracles of Our Lady of Lourdes?

In 1858, in the grotto of Massabielle, near Lourdes in southern France, Our Lady appeared 18 times to Bernadette Soubirous, a young peasant girl. It wasn’t until the 16th Apparition, on 25th March 1858, that the Lady reveals her name. (This day co-incides with the feast of the Annunciation, the celebration of the Archangel Gabriel saluting her as ‘Full of Grace’.) The Lady says, “I am the Immaculate Conception”.
St Bernadette, pray for us!
Our Lady of Lourdes, pray for us!
 
Yes, I believe in the miracles of Lourdes. If I had the chance to go to anywhere in the world, that would be on the top of my list. 👍
 
Christy_Beth said:
Yes, I believe in the miracles of Lourdes. If I had the chance to go to anywhere in the world, that would be on the top of my list. 👍
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Yes I am surely do. I saw the miracle with my own eye as experienced by the father of my close friend. Because of that, my father who previously was atheist, converted to Catholicism, being baptised (under his recommendation without the RCIA), and now even served as a Pro-Deacon in our parish.
 
Of course! I believe God can do miracles whenever and wherever He chooses, but in particular so many have happened at Lourdes that I don’t think all of them can be discounted …
 
Christy_Beth said:
Yes, I believe in the miracles of Lourdes. If I had the chance to go to anywhere in the world, that would be on the top of my list. 👍
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Welcome to my country then !!! but I live quite far away from Lourdes and I don’t believe in the Marian apparitions there …
by the way, if you go there, you can even attend a Protestant service if you want : French Evangelicals have a tendency to pop up even in the most unexpected places, like … Lourdes : there’s an Evangelical church there ( Pentecostal ) 😃
 
Yes, I believe in Lourdes as I also believe Fatima, Guadalupe, Garabandal, etc…
 
Garabandal is a real stretch for me. The church is silent on that one. And there are other problems with that. I once saw a video that included those visions, but it sounded not so good in light of what the scripture and the church teaches.
 
Christy_Beth said:
Garabandal is a real stretch for me. The church is silent on that one. And there are other problems with that. I once saw a video that included those visions, but it sounded not so good in light of what the scripture and the church teaches.
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Who made the video if you don’t mind? When they stuck pins in the eyes of the little girls as they were in ecstacy with the Blessed Mother, and they didn’t flinch, well, that did it for me.
 
Righteousone said:
Who made the video if you don’t mind? When they stuck pins in the eyes of the little girls as they were in ecstacy with the Blessed Mother, and they didn’t flinch, well, that did it for me.
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“When they stuck pins in the eyes of the little girls”!!!

Is no one but me horrified about that?
 
I have no reason to believe that Bernadette was lying. I am sure that she saw what she saw and miracles did happen. Should we call those that experienced the miracles at that time liars?
 
If the Church approves an apparition, that is enough for me to believe. I am better to rely on the faith of the Church than my own reasoning which fails many times on my faith journey.
 
Publisher said:
“When they stuck pins in the eyes of the little girls”!!!

Is no one but me horrified about that?
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Doctors use pins all the time to test people’s reflexes and nervous system responses. Course they don’t usually do it in the eye, I’d imagine that’d be so that the children had ample time to actually SEE the pin and either fess up or flinch away if they weren’t in a trance.

Apparently one of the Medjugorje seers failed this test, although she tried to say later she conveniently flinched for some other reason.
 
LilyM said:
Doctors use pins all the time to test people’s reflexes and nervous system responses. Course they don’t usually do it in the eye, I’d imagine that’d be so that the children had ample time to actually SEE the pin and either fess up or flinch away if they weren’t in a trance.

Apparently one of the Medjugorje seers failed this test, although she tried to say later she conveniently flinched for some other reason.
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I didn’t know the Medjugorgie girls were tested with pins. One failed it??
 
Righteousone said:
I didn’t know the Medjugorgie girls were tested with pins. One failed it??
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Been ages since I read about it - can’t recall whether it was actually pins or something else designed to make 'em flinch (thumbscrews? the rack? 😃 ) but Vicka did flinch and did later try to say it was caused by something else.
 
Righteousone said:
Why are you so surprised if you say you watched the video?
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I didn’t say I watched it…where did you get that? I was horrified that pins were stuck in children’s eyes to prove some “miracle”…I used your statement.
 
LilyM said:
Doctors use pins all the time to test people’s reflexes and nervous system responses. Course they don’t usually do it in the eye, I’d imagine that’d be so that the children had ample time to actually SEE the pin and either fess up or flinch away if they weren’t in a trance.

Apparently one of the Medjugorje seers failed this test, although she tried to say later she conveniently flinched for some other reason.
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So the children were put under a medical professionals care to prove the “miracle”?
 
Publisher said:
So the children were put under a medical professionals care to prove the “miracle”?
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Why would it need to be a medical matter? Surely other scientists (say, psychologists), or just other investigators (say from the Bishop’s office) could look into whether the seers were real or not, and they could and would use the same techniques.
 
LilyM said:
Why would it need to be a medical matter? Surely other scientists (say, psychologists), or just other investigators (say from the Bishop’s office) could look into whether the seers were real or not, and they could and would use the same techniques.
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Oh, I don’t know…pins being stuck into children’s eyeballs maybe? Sounds like an invasive procedure to me…so you’re saying that the men who conducted the “experiments” upon the children by sticking pins into their eyes are psychologists and scientists? And this to prove some “miracle”? And peopel are “OK” with this?
 
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