St. Cipriano: The Evil Saint?

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‘San Cipriano was originally a powerful magician, and he later became a Christian bishop and gave up the craft, and he supposedly burned his books of magic, some of which he had penned himself, having compiled spells and esoteric knowledge from diverse sources and having written it down in Greek so that others might also learn these things.’

from the site you posted. he was a reformed, a converted magician. not a practicing one.
 
Could it be that he is the patron of magicians (illusionists) like David Copperfield, David Blane, or Sigfried and Roy?
 
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Could it be that he is the patron of magicians (illusionists) like David Copperfield, David Blane, or Sigfried and Roy?
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Maybe he’s like St. Dismas, the patron saint of (reformed) thieves.
 
Just out of curiousity, I decided to look up this saint. I have two paperback books on Saints, one from 1958 and another one from 1983. Neither had a listing for a St Cipriano. However, I realized that saint’s names have different renderings in different languages (i.e. Saint Januarius is San Jannero in Italian), I decided to look under Cyprian. Sure enough, both had a listing for a St Cyprian matching the description of the one in the website.

According to both books, the story is a pious fiction enjoyed in both the East and West during the Middle Ages. St Cyprian was born in Antioch in the 3rd century, and travelled the East, learning the black arts. A pagan named Aglaides fell in love with a beautiful Christian woman named Justina and hired Cyprian to use his sorcery to get her to fall in love with him (according to the older book, it was Cyprian himself who fell in love with Justina). Cyprian’s magic was no use against Justina’s faith and the Virgin Mary. Cyprian decided to repent and when the Devil attacked him, used the Sign of the Cross to repulse him. He then burned his books in front of the bishop of Antioch, and both he and Aglaides were baptised. Cyprian was ordained and was later consecrated bishop of Antioch, while Justina gave away her possessions and devoted her life to the service of god. Both she and Cyprian were beheaded during the reign of the Emperor Diocletian (the older book says the Emperor tried to burn them in pitch first, but they were miraculously protected).
 
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Thanks for the story! I had trouble finding many sites on St. Cipriano after I found out that he was associated with magic, and I didn’t think about alternative spellings. Good research :clapping:
 
Thanks for the story! I had trouble finding many sites on St. Cipriano after I found out that he was associated with magic, and I didn’t think about alternative spellings. Good research :clapping:
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You’re welcome. :tiphat:
 
Hey is neither really, What his name in old Latin stands for is Lucifer.He is suppose to be the dark knight that comes and delivers hell to the earth. leader of the four horse men. He was a follower of dark magic. First man to create the black book of magic call Sao Cipriano, Capa Presta. He was a saint from Portugal. He was a supposed reformed magician when really he wasnt he still continued his studies behind the churches back. He wasn’t as faithful as he proclaimed.
 
That site features “curanderos” - Mexican folk magic. Avoid…
 
Mom2Bruno said:
That site features “curanderos” - Mexican folk magic. Avoid…
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I would say avoid magic, but going on the site is fine. Curios are things that people get curious about & I don’t think it always involves magic, but it some times does. Some of the things they have are nice, but definately stay away from the folk magic stuff.
 
LunaCipDemel said:
Hey is neither really, What his name in old Latin stands for is Lucifer.He is suppose to be the dark knight that comes and delivers hell to the earth. leader of the four horse men. He was a follower of dark magic. First man to create the black book of magic call Sao Cipriano, Capa Presta. He was a saint from Portugal. He was a supposed reformed magician when really he wasnt he still continued his studies behind the churches back. He wasn’t as faithful as he proclaimed.
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Where did you get all this info?? It still seems he’s considered a saint & I don’t think they would’ve considered him a saint if he wasn’t reformed.
 
deaconswife said:
Could it be that he is the patron of magicians (illusionists) like David Copperfield, David Blane, or Sigfried and Roy?
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Ha ha ha! . . . I hope you meant this in jest, Deaconswife, because I couldn’t help but laugh a little to myself. . It sounded silly, but I think I understand what you meant. Patron Saints abound!

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SANxJONERO said:
Where did you get all this info?? It still seems he’s considered a saint & I don’t think they would’ve considered him a saint if he wasn’t reformed.
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well it’s my family history. I’m from that blood line. Daisy Cipriano Melo.
 
LunaCipDemel said:
well it’s my family history. I’m from that blood line. Daisy Cipriano Melo.
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OK, thanks for the info… My Mama is from Portugal, but for some reason she didn’t know about S. Ciprian. If you got more to share, I’d like to see. Seems like he was more of a folk saint, because I don’t see him mentioned on some Catholic sites & he seems to be on a lot of the sites that have folk saints.
 
Wow, this is an old thread, but as both a Catholic and a practicing magician I feel the need to toss in my two cents.

I had never previously heard of St. Cipriano, but I do know that the patron saint of magicians is St. John Don Bosco. St. Bosco was a 19th-century Italian priest who, seeing the impoverished children in his town, held educational seminars and mass, using magic tricks to catch their attention. Canonized by Pope Pius XI in 1934, his feast day is Jan. 31st.

Credits for information owed to the International Brotherhood of Magicians’ Linking Ring forum.

…Oh, and Happy St. Patrick’s Day!
 
The issue with magic, and practicing magic is important.

Those that practice magic must understand that if you believe you are a magician then the source of your magic asks you to rely on something else than God. This something else could be yourself. Anything that asks you to put your trust in it, and it is not God should be AVOIDED at all costs.

Now, if you honestly believe you are NOT a magician, but rather a clever person that can fool others with tricks, then OK. As long as you don’t believe that you can depend on your “magic” and yourself then You are OK. God asks us to TRUST in HIM, to depend in HIM.
 
Patavium said:
…Now, if you honestly believe you are NOT a magician, but rather a clever person that can fool others with tricks, then OK. As long as you don’t believe that you can depend on your “magic” and yourself then You are OK. God asks us to TRUST in HIM, to depend in HIM.
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To clarify: Magician, in modern parlance, is just an illusionist/performer. And only the worst of performers “fool” their audiences (which would be both unprofessional and mean-spirited, not to mention prideful – Deadly Sin right there). The purpose of performance sleight-of-hand is to entertain. A magician is an actor with dexterity.
 
Angela_S said:
To clarify: Magician, in modern parlance, is just an illusionist/performer. And only the worst of performers “fool” their audiences (which would be both unprofessional and mean-spirited, not to mention prideful – Deadly Sin right there). The purpose of performance sleight-of-hand is to entertain. A magician is an actor with dexterity.
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👍 I cannot disagree with this!! God Bless 🙂
 
Madaglan said:
I came across this saint. Supposedly he is the patron saint of magicians. I’m reading online that he became a bishop after being a magician for a long time. Does anyone know about this guy???

Here’s a link anyhow:

ojinaga.com/store/curanderos/cipriano.html
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Has everyone noticed what has happened in this thread!! Very Cool!

I would like to note what has happened, and if you don’t mind, my extending this a little.

Madaglan suggests that someone is evil. Knowledgeable contributors give their insights, and the idea of the person being “evil” is dissipated, the idea disappears.

This, I think, is a big part of the way forgiveness happens. When we find something against our values, we condemn; it is rather automatic. When we seek, next, to forgive, we “seek and find”, we will come to understand the motives and sight (most often, the lack of sight) of the person we condemn.

When we understand and forgive, the person is no longer “evil”.

I am convinced that Jesus calls to forgive, everyone we would consider “bad” or “evil”.
As in this thread, understanding is a huge part of forgiveness. Understanding is one of the gifts of the spirit, freely given to those who ask for it.

I encourage readers of this thread to help others forgive those they think are “evil”. Jesus asks us not to judge others, and forgiveness is the antidote to all condemnation.
 
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