St. Faustina and her "five opportunities"

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Laudetur Iesus Christus!

I am looking for a citation for the Saint’s claim that at the particular judgment, the soul is given five opportunities to let Christ save her, i.e. to not turn away from Him in shame and horror of her sins, and leave Him. I am wondering if the five opportunities have their basis in his five wounds (I assume, but want to know the citation). Intra tua vulnera absconde me.
 
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Laudetur Iesus Christus!

I am looking for a citation for the Saint’s claim that at the particular judgment, the soul is given five opportunities to let Christ save her, i.e. to not turn away from Him in shame and horror of her sins, and leave Him. I am wondering if the five opportunities have their basis in his five wounds (I assume, but want to know the citation). Intra tua vulnera absconde me.
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What makes you think there is such a claim? I have read the Diary more than once and don’t remember reading this. A Google search turned up nothing. Did someone tell you Faustina said this?
 
This teaching is patently false and nothing but heretical. Many saints have affirmed that the will is fixed at death. Those who refuse forgiveness of sins continue refusing it forever, while those disposed to receive mercy are disposed to receive it forever.
 
Yehuda_Dion said:
This teaching is patently false and nothing but heretical. Many saints have affirmed that the will is fixed at death. Those who refuse forgiveness of sins continue refusing it forever, while those disposed to receive mercy are disposed to receive it forever.
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I don’t think the idea above is incompatible with this. Neither the other posters nor St Faustina seem to be contemplating chances being given AFTER death, rather AT THE TIME OF (which can just as easily mean before).

It is a given that God ardently desires the salvation of each soul. And that every millisecond of life is a fresh opportunity to repent. Think too of how often it is implied that the hour of death is a time of especial trial for souls (hence the Hail Mary seeking her prayers ‘now and at the hour of death’). It stands to reason that God might counteract this additional temptation by offering additional graces to overcome it at the same time.
 
Student09 said:
What makes you think there is such a claim? I have read the Diary more than once and don’t remember reading this. A Google search turned up nothing. Did someone tell you Faustina said this?
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Hi, I heard this the other day mentioned very quickly in passing on either EWTN or my local Catholic radio. I too did not find anything in google.
 
LilyM said:
I don’t think the idea above is incompatible with this. Neither the other posters nor St Faustina seem to be contemplating chances being given AFTER death, rather AT THE TIME OF (which can just as easily mean before).

It is a given that God ardently desires the salvation of each soul. And that every millisecond of life is a fresh opportunity to repent. Think too of how often it is implied that the hour of death is a time of especial trial for souls (hence the Hail Mary seeking her prayers ‘now and at the hour of death’). It stands to reason that God might counteract this additional temptation by offering additional graces to overcome it at the same time.
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Yehuda, yes, I agree with you. but I also agree with how Lily is intuiting the Saint’s (alleged!) words.

But do let us try to get to the root of the question, which is: did she write such, and not get into the theology behind it, at least not until we know if she wrote such.
 
Student09 and mommyof4, thank you. That passage is very good and close to what I heard, or thought I heard. Although what I heard was only a reference to a passage, and not the referred-to passage actually quoted or cited. I am not the sort to misremember things that make me stop in my tracks, so this is quite a mystery!

But again, the passage you linked is in itself worth this thread being opened.

Perhaps the “5 opportunities” at, meaning during, the moment of the particular judgment was a concept that the Saint verbally discussed with someone in her life or is in a letter that has been obscurely published. Who knows. I am just conjecturing.

But as it seems not able to be definitely cited, I suppose we should consider the case closed lest we (I) accidentally spread misinformation.

Jesus, I trust in You!
 
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