St Gemma Galgani

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🙂 does anyone else here have a devotion to this Saint? I just spent a bit reading about her on this website stgemmagalgani.com/ and …WOW. Reading about her really makes me want to love God more.

what do you think?🙂
 
I just looked at the website. St. Gemma seems like a lovely young lady, and obviously a person of heroic virtue.

I think it’s very important to realize that, like the stigmata, the heights of emotion she experienced in her love of God were extraordinary gifts from God. They did not proceed from her own efforts to love Him. It is unrealistic to judge one’s own love for God by St. Gemma’s extraordinary experiences. Using one’s feelings to evaluate one’s spiritual life is a very dangerous business.

Betsy
 
I “discovered” St. Gemma during my first year of college; she is patron saint of students. She helped me out with a few exams 🙂
 
I was Confirmed last year, and i took the name ‘Gemma’ in honour of her. 😃
Here is another website dedicated to this youthful saint: stgemma.com/
Yes, she guides me in my schooling as well as helping me understand more deeply in the Passion of Christ.
 
I was Confirmed last year, and i took the name ‘Gemma’ in honour of her. 😃
Here is another website dedicated to this youthful saint: stgemma.com/
Yes, she guides me in my schooling as well as helping me understand more deeply in the Passion of Christ.
Congratulations! 👍
 
Saint Gemma is very spcial to me and I pray to her all the time. If you really want a moving story read about her in a book “The life of Gemma Galgani” written by her spiritual director. Never have I read about such a deeply devoted and spiritually gifted girl. She is truly inspirational!!🙂
 
She is such an inspiration to me. I have read The Life of St. Gemma Galgani written by her Spiritual Director Venerable Fr. Germanus, CP and it has lot of details on how she lived a holy life in her times. It is such a very good book to read. It surely touches the heart & inspires us to love Our Good Lord Jesus Christ more & brings us closer to God.

May God’s Peace, Love & Mercy be with you and to all!
 
A rather curious individual. If a girl like that actually existed in this new century, I’d be persuaded to take a minor in psychology and (I hope nobody finds this disrespectful) ‘study’ her. I cannot help but be the doubting Thomas that I am when it came to reading the biographies of her written by other people. Its not something to be proud of but hey, I can’t help it. I really have a hard time believing a person like that existed.

Then again, I doubt she’d wanna meet someone like me. :o
 
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I didn’t know about St. Gemma until a few months ago. When my grand- (and god-) mother died and her house was emptied, I took what looked to be a small monstrance. I have only recently realized that this device housed a first class relic of St. Gemma. Needless to say, she’s becoming a part of my prayer life!
Peace
Ted
 
A rather curious individual. If a girl like that actually existed in this new century, I’d be persuaded to take a minor in psychology and (I hope nobody finds this disrespectful) ‘study’ her. I cannot help but be the doubting Thomas that I am when it came to reading the biographies of her written by other people. Its not something to be proud of but hey, I can’t help it. I really have a hard time believing a person like that existed.
People did try to study her when she was alive and it was a trial to her. She also reported that their curiosity was displeasing to God.

I guess one way to look at it is, if we really believe that the God of our faith is real and all-powerful and intimately involved in human history as the Church teaches that He is, why is it difficult to believe that there might be a person like Gemma?

He gives His graces where He will and however He wills.
 
People did try to study her when she was alive and it was a trial to her. She also reported that their curiosity was displeasing to God.
By “study” you mean an objective psychological study and perhaps even a scientific analysis of her stigmata (among other things) that can be consulted even today? The Church is supposed to investigate these things in such a manner (especially during an important a process as canonization). Surely such a type of “curiosity” is understandable. This goes especially in an increasingly skeptical world.
I guess one way to look at it is, if we really believe that the God of our faith is real and all-powerful and intimately involved in human history as the Church teaches that He is, why is it difficult to believe that there might be a person like Gemma?
I’m afraid you might be comparing apples with oranges. Proving the existence of God does not necessarily require empirical evidence (as shown by the many philosophical debates that continue to rage even till today). Furthermore, God is not so easily bound by laws of science, physics, and conventional psychology. On the other hand, the emotional intensity and supernatural events that surround this holy but otherwise human saint (such as having visions and stigmata) can put heavy burdens of proof that are very strictly defined.

That… and the fact that while it may have been possible for a person like Gemma to have existed around the 19th century, looking at our world today makes me think that finding another one like her again would be a miracle in of itself. One thing’s for sure, I might as well have found my dream girl… assuming of course I don’t scare her away seeing I’m actually her complete opposite.
 
I read the book about St. Gemma by Ven. Germanus. It was very good and impressive. Definitely inspiring.
That… and the fact that while it may have been possible for a person like Gemma to have existed around the 19th century, looking at our world today makes me think that finding another one like her again would be a miracle in of itself.
For such a person to exist in any time period is an incredible miracle.

She had lots of sinners around her and temptations to sin. She did isolate herself to a substantial extent, though, through her discipline of silence.
 
St. Padre Pio existed in the 20th century. He lived from1887-1968. He also received the stigmata & in his lifetime was investigated by the Vatican & was studied extensively by the doctors to make sure that the wounds were not self inflicted & that he was of sound mind. They tried to cure the wounds but it would not heal. His visible stigmata bled daily & he lost about 1 pint of blood daily for 50 years but it was miraculously healed on his death.

He is one of the most gifted saints. With his stigmata, he possessed all 5 wounds- on his hands, feet & on his side. Unlike the other saints, some of them only possessed 1 or 2 of the wounds. Some saints never had a stigmata. He also knew people’s thoughts & can read their hearts accurately describing their sins when they went to him for confession. He bilocated (be at two places at the same time). Communicated daily with his guardian angel & would even deliver the letters of St. Padre Pio. His guardian angel would sometimes tell him the contents of unopened letters. He had a gift of prophecy, odor of sanctity, and numerous miracles witnessed by so many people. He also was physical attacked by the demons frequently. He had such a devotion to Our Blessed Mother & was able to see her.

There are many books written about him. About his life, his gifts, the miracles, the sufferings, even the letters/ communications he had with his spiritual director. His story is definitely one of the most interesting, inspiring books to read. And to think that he existed in the 20th century, having personally met Pope John Paul II before he became the Pope, is such a blessing to us from Our Good God.

michaeljournal.org/stpio.htm

ewtn.com/padrepio/index.htm

May God’s Peace, Love, Mercy, Healing, Graces & Blessings be with you and to all!
 
Yes.
She is a wonderful saint and is a great guide to Our Lord’s Passion and our Lady’s Sorrowful Heart.

I am very glad that she has been in my life. Yet the curious thing is, she “chose” me! 🙂
I do recommend her to anyone!

In Christ,
Never
 
I’m afraid you might be comparing apples with oranges. Proving the existence of God does not necessarily require empirical evidence (as shown by the many philosophical debates that continue to rage even till today). Furthermore, God is not so easily bound by laws of science, physics, and conventional psychology. On the other hand, the emotional intensity and supernatural events that surround this holy but otherwise human saint (such as having visions and stigmata) can put heavy burdens of proof that are very strictly defined.
You missed my point. A saint such as Gemma is a miracle of God. Since I believe in the God of the Bible and the Catholic Church - a God who is perfectly capable of working miracles when He chooses - I do not find it difficult to believe that He could give the world someone like Gemma with so many supernatural graces.

As for investigation, you are correct that it is good to investigate such things - to distinguish the real from the false - but my understanding was that God was (according to Gemma) displeased with the *motives *of some of the physicians who tried to investigate, for example, her stigmata. However, she was examined in various ways by a number of people, including her spiritual director, who chronicled his findings in detail. I suggest that if you are interested in learning more, you read the book that he (Fr. Germanus) wrote about her.
 
As the webmaster of the website devoted to St Gemma Galgani at www.stgemmagalgani.com perhaps I can pass along a little of information regarding the psychological and medical studies pertaining to St Gemma,

Firstly, it must be remembered that Gemma was a modern Saint—she died only 107 years ago in 1903, and she was the first person to live in the 20th century to be canonised by the Catholic Church. She was canonised in 1940, only 70 years ago, and her mystical life, writings, virtues and spiritual devotion were intensively studied by relatively modern principles of theology, medicine and psychology. The investigation into her holy life began in 1909, with the Vatican investigation beginning in 1922, and culminated with her canonisation in 1940.

Recently, Professor Rudolph M. Bell of Rutgers University and Christina Mazzoni, a professor at the University of Vermont have published an book entitled "The Voices of Gemma Galgani- The Life and Afterlife of a Modern Saint." which studies the life of St Gemma, including commentaries from both a medical and psychological perspective.

In closing, St Gemma was not a medieval Saint subjected to the obscurities of history. She lived in the modern world, having died only 107 years ago, and her holy life was well known by countless contemporaries.She was an extraordinary mystic who bore the stigmata, the crown of thorns and the scorgings of Jesus. Her entire Diary, Autobiography and many of he letters can be read on the website. Also many of her words while in ecstasy were recorded, and make for a most extraordinary and edifying reading.

Glenn Dallaire
Connecticut, USA
-Webmaster of the website devoted to St Gemma Galgani

“What do You wish, oh Jesus? My life? It is Yours…I have already offered it to Thee. Would You be pleased if I offered it again as a victim in expiation for my sins, and those of all sinners? If I had a hundred lives I would give every one of them to You.” -St Gemma Galgani
 
You missed my point. A saint such as Gemma is a miracle of God. Since I believe in the God of the Bible and the Catholic Church - a God who is perfectly capable of working miracles when He chooses - I do not find it difficult to believe that He could give the world someone like Gemma with so many supernatural graces.
The flaw in this reasoning is that God is an omnipotent being and St. Gemma is still human. I mean for instance, when you make the claim that God created the universe, one need not produce a lot of scientific study. Philosophical arguments can already be sufficient. On the other hand, when you make the claim that a person is having visions and is suffering from injuries that were neither self-inflicted or natural, the burden of proof is more defined.
As for investigation, you are correct that it is good to investigate such things - to distinguish the real from the false - but my understanding was that God was (according to Gemma) displeased with the motives of some of the physicians who tried to investigate, for example, her stigmata.
Aaaand here is where I’m having trouble with you here. What exactly was displeasing about their motives? Surely Christ, despite Thomas’ doubts still allowed the man to see for himself the injuries He had suffered on the cross. You need to be careful with this type of thinking. Anybody can twist it and make it as if you don’t want people to know something or worse, that God Himself may have had something to hide.
As the webmaster of the website devoted to St Gemma Galgani at www.stgemmagalgani.com perhaps I can pass along a little of information regarding the psychological and medical studies pertaining to St Gemma,

Firstly, it must be remembered that Gemma was a modern Saint—she died only 107 years ago in 1903, and she was the first person to live in the 20th century to be canonised by the Catholic Church. She was canonised in 1940, only 70 years ago, and her mystical life, writings, virtues and spiritual devotion were intensively studied by relatively modern principles of theology, medicine and psychology. The investigation into her holy life began in 1909, with the Vatican investigation beginning in 1922, and culminated with her canonisation in 1940.

Recently, Professor Rudolph M. Bell of Rutgers University and Christina Mazzoni, a professor at the University of Vermont have published an book entitled "The Voices of Gemma Galgani- The Life and Afterlife of a Modern Saint." which studies the life of St Gemma, including commentaries from both a medical and psychological perspective.
Thanks for this info. I’ll give Mazzoni’s book a look. However, are there any more recent books similar to this one? As I said before, I am simply just curious. I don’t see the harm in a bit of healthy skepticism. 🤷
 
The flaw in this reasoning is that God is an omnipotent being and St. Gemma is still human. I mean for instance, when you make the claim that God created the universe, one need not produce a lot of scientific study. Philosophical arguments can already be sufficient. On the other hand, when you make the claim that a person is having visions and is suffering from injuries that were neither self-inflicted or natural, the burden of proof is more defined.
In a canonization process, yes, you want evidence. The Church always requires a lot of evidence while moving through a canonization process. And they got it for Gemma.

Student09 is absolutely correct that if God could create the universe, He certainly could create wonders in Gemma like He did. In fact, He has done this many times in great saints for 2,000 years, so there is a TON of evidence for this kind of event, which should make it less shocking, though always delightfully wondrous and beautiful! In view of how much God has done in so many saints, and in view of the inexpressible power of a God who created the universe, of course God could work such wonders in Gemma!

You are right that we want evidence when there’s a canonization going on. The canonization process is complete, now, and the verdict of the Church is infallible. Therefore we can be quite sure the injuries were not self-inflicted. There was a lot of research into this, from professionals, and now there is an infallible statement.

There was one report where a doctor investigated her and came back with the conclusion that there were no stigmata. On that occasion, he saw the blood, but he could find no sign of injuries in her body, which indicated to him that there were no stigmata. However, Gemma predicted beforehand that Jesus was displeased with the planned investigation and would keep the doctor from finding anything. She had not been told by any human of the planned secret visit from the doctor, yet she foretold that this would happen. The doctor’s negative report was not that there were self-inflicted stigmata, but that there were no stigmata. Yet there have been plentiful witnesses, including bishops, who have clearly seen deep wounds in her body and have observed the entire process of the stigmata’s miraculous appearing and disappearing. An argument that there were no wounds in her body would be ridiculous in view of the vast numbers of testimonies that have clearly described the presence of deep and gruesome wounds in her flesh. Therefore it’s clear that the doctor was not allowed to see what was regularly happening. Either Gemma (if one is inclined to be very skeptical and throw out the numerous eyewitness reports because of prejudice, as well as the Church’s official investigation and results) or God obstructed the doctor’s investigation.
Aaaand here is where I’m having trouble with you here. What exactly was displeasing about their motives? Surely Christ, despite Thomas’ doubts still allowed the man to see for himself the injuries He had suffered on the cross.
Yes, but sometimes when people have asked Jesus for a sign, He has said no. For instance, once, the Pharisees approached Him, asking for a sign, and He gave them no sign “except the sign of Jonah,” a sign they would become aware of on Easter, but not before. And another time, we read of a town where He performed very few miracles because of the lack of faith in the place.

So sometimes God does keep His power to Himself.

He also sometimes keeps His work in His servants’ lives to Himself. The saints have all tried to hide marvels God worked in them and through them, except when they felt it was better that people know so that they might believe, and allowed this to overrule their preference for obscurity. Jesus is no exception; there are repeated cases in the Gospels where He tells people not to let anyone know about the signs He has performed, or where He commands demons not to call Him Christ in the presence of the people.
You need to be careful with this type of thinking. Anybody can twist it and make it as if you don’t want people to know something or worse, that God Himself may have had something to hide.
God does have some things to hide, but that shouldn’t be seen in a negative light. He reveals more and more of His light over the course of history, bit by bit as individuals and cultures become more capable of receiving it properly. He prepared the way for Christ for millennia among the Jews through the revelation of the covenants, the laws and prophets.

I’ve experienced the necessity of this myself, as well, in my evangelistic work. Sometimes people aren’t ready for some of the truths about Mary, for example. I have to share the light of the Gospel about Mary with them bit by bit, helping them to accept the easier things first and then moving on to the more and more majestic and sublime. I can’t give them everything at once or they’d throw me out with a punch in the nose.

We know that Paul saw visions in Heaven and heard words that it is not fitting for man to pass on to other men.

God reveals more and more to people as they draw closer and closer to His Heart.
 
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