St John the Apostle

[Hope1960]

How Did the Apostles Die? - Catholicism.org

Was St. John assumed into Heaven? I’ve never heard of this before.

 

[Dan_Defender]

I think it was St. Jerome who wrote that St. John the Apostle died in Ephesus, in the third year of Emperor Trajan.

 

[Hope1960]

I think it was St. Jerome who wrote that St. John the Apostle died in Ephesus, in the third year of Emperor Trajan.

But my question is was John assumed into Heaven? Because I never heard of that before.

 

[PeterT]

Dan_Defender:

I think it was St. Jerome who wrote that St. John the Apostle died in Ephesus, in the third year of Emperor Trajan.

But my question is was John assumed into Heaven? Because I never heard of that before.

If St. John was assumed, then who is in St. John’s tomb located in Selçuk Turkey near Ephesus?

 

[Genesis315]

It’s referenced in the Golden Legend and reflects a prior tradition:
http://www.christianiconography.info/goldenLegend/john.htm

(scroll down to “His Death”)

If St. John was assumed, then who is in St. John’s tomb located in Selçuk Turkey near Ephesus?

No one–at least according to the legend above his tomb was found to be filled with manna.

 

[Hope1960]

It’s referenced in the Golden Legend and reflects a prior tradition:

http://www.christianiconography.info/goldenLegend/john.htm

In the second paragraph of your link, it mentions the Apocolypse. What’s it talking about?

 

[Genesis315]

In the second paragraph of your link, it mentions the Apocolypse. What’s it talking about?

That’s just an older name for the book of Revelation in the Bible.

Book of Revelation - Wikipedia

 

[Dan_Defender]

He was not. And early Christians did not believe this.

 

[Hope1960]

He was not. And early Christians did not believe this.

I’d never thought so.

 

[dochawk]

If St. John was assumed, then who is in St. John’s tomb located in Selçuk Turkey near Ephesus?

Well, given that the Eastern calendar has the first, second, and third finding of the head of John the Baptist, and that there is a church with each head . . .



hawk

 

[BartholomewB]

Saint Robert Bellarmine, based on the fact that there are no relics of the Beloved Apostle, assures us that his body was assumed into heaven.

@Hope1960, your link quotes St. Robert Bellarmine as the source of that information. Bellarmine (1542-1621), an archbishop of Padua, was a Jesuit who wrote one of the earliest Catholic catechisms. When somebody noticed that his catechism left out the eight beatitudes, he told them he had done that on purpose, “because nobody can remember more than seven of anything.”

 

[Nita]

The online Catholic Encyclopedia article on St. John seems to use the terms “death”, “departure” and “assumption” interchangeably.

…After Domitian’s death the Apostle returned to Ephesus during the reign of Trajan, and at Ephesus he died about A.D. 100 at a great age. …

…The “departure” or “assumption” of the Apostle is noted in the Menology of Constantinople and the Calendar of Naples (26 September), which seems to have been regarded as the date of his death. …
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08492a.htm
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[dochawk]

“because nobody can remember more than seven of anything.”

gosh, that would have been a handy quote during my four years at Bellarmine College Preparatory . . .

btw, Bellarmine is the #2 Jesuit saint, behind only Ignatius of Loyola, the founder.

hawk

 

[Thom18]

No one–at least according to the legend above his tomb was found to be filled with manna.

That would be fitting.