St. Malachy: Only one more pope left

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How well does it dovetail with Fatima or other Church acknowledged apparitions? While we do not know the day and the hour, what about the month or the year or the decade?
Well, you do have to remember one thing (the one thing I like to remind folks of): the Bible is not a 21st century Western book, and thus do not reflect modern-day Western idiom and culture. It might be the Word of God, but that doesn’t mean you would expect it to read it like a newspaper. It is the product of a culture and time different from ours. Personally, I think that taking “no man knoweth the day or the hour” and saying, “Hey, it doesn’t say anything about months or years!” as some people do is pretty much disingenious and unwise really; it’s more of an abuse of an ancient text.
 
Well, you do have to remember one thing (the one thing I like to remind folks of): the Bible is not a 21st century Western book, and thus do not reflect modern-day Western idiom and culture. It might be the Word of God, but that doesn’t mean you would expect it to read it like a newspaper. It is the product of a culture and time different from ours. Personally, I think that taking “no man knoweth the day or the hour” and saying, “Hey, it doesn’t say anything about months or years!” as some people do is pretty much disingenious and unwise really; it’s more of an abuse of an ancient text.
I respectfully disagree. What then would be the point of latter day prophecies and of the warnings of things to come? I think we are supposed to watch for these signs and in this way be vigilant (as well as continue to do our best on the Way)

For example, there is a call for penance and reparation in prophecy that is specific. God is asking something of us. THIS is the time of mercy. THIS is a time for asking graces. Did the majority of Catholics in 1100 AD understand the Divine Mercy chaplet in its spirituality (It was true before Jesus spoke to St. Faustina, but He chose a later time to emphasize this Truth)?

Now the whole Church celebrates Divine Mercy Sunday! 👍

God, I believe, is always active now. He was never just a watchmaker setting things in motion and stepping back. That’s not the way of love. These prophecies from the Bible and Saints are ways of telling Christians to look at the age they are living in, to be wise and serve Him as best as we are able.

The loss of the virtue of modesty and chastity throughout the Christian world IS different than previous times afaik. This age from a technology standpoint is different. It does not put in me a sense of fear (though I do fear for my salvation), but it does recently give me a sense of urgency.

This is the time of Mercy and we have a part to play in love. Pray, love, witness.
 
I respectfully disagree. What then would be the point of latter day prophecies and of the warnings of things to come? I think we are supposed to watch for these signs and in this way be vigilant (as well as continue to do our best on the Way)
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Jesus told us NOT to look for signs.
 
I don’t waste my time worrying about things like this because it is said by people who don’t know what they are talking about.
 
I was at St Paul Outside the Walls, Rome in 1990. There were 4 holes open for portraits of popes because the holes were cut for the prophesies of Nostradamus, no Malachy. Talk about someone spreading lies. You can take a virtual tour of St Paul Outside the Walls on Line. There are many links to virtual tours.
 
Regarding the mottos of the popes, many people think that Malachy’s description of “glory of the olives” for the pope to follow JPII was fulfilled in Cardinal Ratzinger’s choice of the name Benedict, as St. Benedict is associated with a branch of Benedictines called the Olivetans. The monastic order of Benedictins claimed that this Pope would be chosen from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesised that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of of the world from the Mount of Olives and mentioned the olive tree as a sign. Some think this Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation that Jesus spoke about.

Also, according to Malachy Pope JPII description was “De labore solis - From the labour of the Sun”. Some think this was particularly apt for this beloved pope, as John Paul II was both born and buried under a partial solar eclipse. This motto also recalls the passage in Rev 12 concerning the Woman adorned with the Sun:

And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. (Rev 12:1-2)

The Latin phrase De labore solis is a common idiom for a solar eclipse, but it also echoes the above passage in the Apocalypse, where the Woman is in the pains of childbirth. Did this motto predict that the prophecy of the Woman adorned with the Sun and the “war in heaven” would take place during the pontificate of this pope?

Here are the descriptions of the other popes of the last century [1914-2012]

Religion Laid Waste. BENEDICT XV. 1914-1922. During this Pope’s reign saw Communism move into Russia where religious life was laid waste, and World War I with the death of millions of Christians who were carnage in Flanders Field and elsewhere.

Unshaken Faith. PIUS XI. 1922-1939. This Pope faced tremendous pressure from fascist and sinister powers in Germany and Italy, but he was an outspoken critic of Communism and Fascism which enraged Hitler.

Pastor and Mariner. JOHN XXIII. 1958-1963. John was a pastor to the world, much beloved, and the Patriarch of Venice. The connection to “mariner” is thus remarkable.

Flower of Flowers. PAUL VI. 1963-1978. Paul’s coat-of-arms depicts three fleurs-de-lis, (iris blossoms) corresponding to Malachay’s prophecy.

Of the Half Moon, “De Medietate Lunae”. JOHN PAUL I. 1978-1978. John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

St. Malachy was reported to have possessed the powers of levitation, healing, and clairvoyance. While on his way to the Vatican to assume the post of papal legate for Ireland, he fell into trance and saw a line of papal reigns stretching from the successor to Innocent II and extending through centuries to the last of the line, identified as Peter of Rome. Malachy assigned short descriptions in Latin to each pope when he committed his vision to paper. These mottoes usually refer to a family name, birthplace, coat-of-arms, or office held before election to the papacy. Some of the phrases are multiple prophecies, written with ingenious word play.

Through the centuries, his prophecies have turned out to be amazingly accurate, even prophesying the date of his death.

By the way between Pope Benedict XVI and Peter Romanus is this line:

“In Psecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit.” “In extreme persecution, the Holy Roman Church will sit.”]

Whether this is a period of sede vacante with no pope or a period of time where a long line of popes will extend throughout persistent persecution is unclear.
 
Well, the novel Petrus Romanus (Shouldn’t it be Petrus Romanum?) is to be published next week so I expect we will be hearing more and more about this. Especially after December goes by and the Mayan calendar renews and nothing much happens.

Of course, if December comes and the Detroit Lions are undefeated, then maybe…
 
Well, the novel Petrus Romanus (Shouldn’t it be Petrus Romanum?) is to be published next week so I expect we will be hearing more and more about this. Especially after December goes by and the Mayan calendar renews and nothing much happens.

Of course, if December comes and the Detroit Lions are undefeated, then maybe…
I picked up Petrus Romanus today, it purports to be non-fiction. I will be taking it back tomorrow.
 
Regarding the mottos of the popes, many people think that Malachy’s description of “glory of the olives” for the pope to follow JPII was fulfilled in Cardinal Ratzinger’s choice of the name Benedict, as St. Benedict is associated with a branch of Benedictines called the Olivetans. The monastic order of Benedictins claimed that this Pope would be chosen from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesised that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil. Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of of the world from the Mount of Olives and mentioned the olive tree as a sign. Some think this Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation that Jesus spoke about.

Also, according to Malachy Pope JPII description was “De labore solis - From the labour of the Sun”. Some think this was particularly apt for this beloved pope, as John Paul II was both born and buried under a partial solar eclipse. This motto also recalls the passage in Rev 12 concerning the Woman adorned with the Sun:

And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. (Rev 12:1-2)

The Latin phrase De labore solis is a common idiom for a solar eclipse, but it also echoes the above passage in the Apocalypse, where the Woman is in the pains of childbirth. Did this motto predict that the prophecy of the Woman adorned with the Sun and the “war in heaven” would take place during the pontificate of this pope?

Here are the descriptions of the other popes of the last century [1914-2012]

Religion Laid Waste. BENEDICT XV. 1914-1922. During this Pope’s reign saw Communism move into Russia where religious life was laid waste, and World War I with the death of millions of Christians who were carnage in Flanders Field and elsewhere.

Unshaken Faith. PIUS XI. 1922-1939. This Pope faced tremendous pressure from fascist and sinister powers in Germany and Italy, but he was an outspoken critic of Communism and Fascism which enraged Hitler.

Pastor and Mariner. JOHN XXIII. 1958-1963. John was a pastor to the world, much beloved, and the Patriarch of Venice. The connection to “mariner” is thus remarkable.

Flower of Flowers. PAUL VI. 1963-1978. Paul’s coat-of-arms depicts three fleurs-de-lis, (iris blossoms) corresponding to Malachay’s prophecy.

Of the Half Moon, “De Medietate Lunae”. JOHN PAUL I. 1978-1978. John Paul I was elected Pope on August 26, 1978, when the moon appeared exactly half full. It was in its waning phase. He died the following month, soon after an eclipse of the moon.

St. Malachy was reported to have possessed the powers of levitation, healing, and clairvoyance. While on his way to the Vatican to assume the post of papal legate for Ireland, he fell into trance and saw a line of papal reigns stretching from the successor to Innocent II and extending through centuries to the last of the line, identified as Peter of Rome. Malachy assigned short descriptions in Latin to each pope when he committed his vision to paper. These mottoes usually refer to a family name, birthplace, coat-of-arms, or office held before election to the papacy. Some of the phrases are multiple prophecies, written with ingenious word play.

Through the centuries, his prophecies have turned out to be amazingly accurate, even prophesying the date of his death.

By the way between Pope Benedict XVI and Peter Romanus is this line:

“In Psecutione extrema S.R.E. ſedebit.” “In extreme persecution, the Holy Roman Church will sit.”]

Whether this is a period of sede vacante with no pope or a period of time where a long line of popes will extend throughout persistent persecution is unclear.
Some would claim that Benedict XVI is the last; that Petrus was added later.

My question to the doubters: why would some of the popes “go out of their way” to keep the prophecy going? Our current Holy Father is a perfect example: he is obviously not a Benedictine. He could have chosen any name. Yet he chooses Benedict, “to keep the prophecy going”. Why? He is an extremely intelligent man. He had to know of Malachi’s prophecies in advance of his election.

Thoughts?
 
my interpretation is that the next Pope on St. Malachy’s list, who is also the last Pope on the list, is not the last Pope ever. He is merely the last Pope on the list because he reigns at the start of the tribulation. But the tribulation is divided into two parts. The return of Jesus is in the distant future, at the end of the second part of the tribulation. And we are on the threshold of the first part of the tribulation.
When do you think the tribulation starts? At 2017 - The 500 year anniversary of Protestantism? Garabandal? Medjugorje? Thoughts?

Kindly,

James
 
Some would claim that Benedict XVI is the last; that Petrus was added later.

My question to the doubters: why would some of the popes “go out of their way” to keep the prophecy going? Our current Holy Father is a perfect example: he is obviously not a Benedictine. He could have chosen any name. Yet he chooses Benedict, “to keep the prophecy going”. Why? He is an extremely intelligent man. He had to know of Malachi’s prophecies in advance of his election.

Thoughts?
Well, the phrase from the prophecy that is commonly applied to Benedict XVI is simply, gloria olivae, “glory of the olive.” Which, to be honest, by itself does not tell us much; I mean, you could read a lot of things into a phrase as general as “glory of the olive.” I will be frank here: you gotta do a bit of mental gymnastics to make “glory of the olive” mean “Benedict”: ‘olive’ = ‘Olivetans’ = ‘Benedictines’ = ‘Benedict’.

And that’s exactly the point: most of the one-liners are vague enough that you could fit almost anything into them. For some reason the prophecies seem to be very (suspiciously?) accurate till Urban VII, fitting perfectly even the antipopes, but that afterwards great efforts have to be made in order to make the prophecies fit.
 
While Jesus told us that no man knows the day or hour of his return, he does list signs of the end times in Luke 21 and tells us to look for them. So it’s not quite correct to say that we shouldn’t be looking.

The problem with signs and prophecies lies in determining which are legitimate and which are false.

Is the St. Malachy prophecy legitimate? I don’t know, but some of the connections seem strained to me. It reads like Nostradamus. As detailed as God’s legitimate prophecies are in the Bible, you would think that if these were legitimate they, too would be detailed.

I think I’ll just keep going to Mass, keep going to Confession regularly, pray the Rosary, and try my best to live as Christ said I should. If the end is around the corner I’ll be prepared.
 
thanks, I didn’t even know about this one. This confims it even more.

“I was in this church (St Paul Outside the Walls) in 2006 and one Italian man (spoke English) told us that above all the columns are round sketches of all the Popes (from Peter to Pope Benedict). They have a light on the current Pope and there is only room for one more Pope! Interesting when according to a prophecy made in the 12th century, there would be only 112 popes left. Pope Benedict is number 111. I just wanted to share this with you. John”

northernword.com/northernword/archive/2005/02/a-week-in-rome-st-pauls-outsid.html
AMAZEING . INTERESTING . BUT is it true?
 
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