St. Maria Goretti Relic

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I am in love with St. Maria Goretti! She is such an awesome saint.

Anyways…does anyone know how I can get my hands on a relic of her?
 
Some stuff on E-bay came up…

I looked up “St.Maria Goretti relics” and E-bay was the only thing that came up. So you could always do that.
 
MakingMyWayBack said:
Some stuff on E-bay came up…

I looked up “St.Maria Goretti relics” and E-bay was the only thing that came up. So you could always do that.
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The Church forbids relics to to bought and sold. The only time it might be acceptable to buy a relic would be to rescue it and give it to the Church.
 
thistle said:
The Church forbids relics to to bought and sold. The only time it might be acceptable to buy a relic would be to rescue it and give it to the Church.
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But when there are relics on ebay, it is normally selling only the gold reliquary I find. The relic comes with the reliquary.

One website says this:
“Also you’re never bidding on the relic itself but on the container (frame, theca, reliquary, shrine, etc) the relic will remain as allways a gift to the high bidder.”

Is there are place other than ebay where I can get one, such as from a Passionist provider or something?
 
AveMaria12 said:
But when there are relics on ebay, it is normally selling only the gold reliquary I find. The relic comes with the reliquary.

One website says this:
-]Also you’re never bidding on the relic itself but on the container (frame, theca, reliquary, shrine, etc) the relic will remain as allways a gift to the high bidder. /-]
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May I ask why you struck out the last sentence?
 
thistle said:
The Church forbids relics to to bought and sold. The only time it might be acceptable to buy a relic would be to rescue it and give it to the Church.
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I didn’t say it was right, but if she wants one, she’s more than likely going to have to buy it. No one’s just going to hand them out for free.
 
MakingMyWayBack said:
I didn’t say it was right, but if she wants one, she’s more than likely going to have to buy it. No one’s just going to hand them out for free.
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LOL I’m a guy.😃 I just like Mary so that’s why I took it as my username. I’m a seminarian, I should** be a guy.😉
 
AveMaria12 said:
LOL I’m a guy.😃 I just like Mary so that’s why I took it as my username. I’m a seminarian, I should** be a guy.😉
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😊 I’m so sorry…I hate when people get my gender wrong online, haha. I’m sorry.
 
Hi, getting a relic off eBay is against the Church. I doubt about the alleged thing of paying for the reliquary. Also I heard something like the relics are meant to come from a Church authority. Religious orders associated with the person I think may be allowed, associations propagating a canonization and from the Church itself. I really do not think eBay is ok. In my opinion , but if you still think that is I believe you should ask an apologist on this site , if they dont answer your question then tell a Priest what you’re planning on doing and see what he says.
 
Christine85 said:
Hi, getting a relic off eBay is against the Church. I doubt about the alleged thing of paying for the reliquary. Also I heard something like the relics are meant to come from a Church authority. Religious orders associated with the person I think may be allowed, associations propagating a canonization and from the Church itself. I really do not think eBay is ok. In my opinion , but if you still think that is I believe you should ask an apologist on this site , if they dont answer your question then tell a Priest what you’re planning on doing and see what he says.
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Not to mention two other problems:
  1. There’s very little way of knowing if the relic is legitimate – people can sell just about anything on eBay, and “Caveat Emptor” rules supreme;
  2. If the relic were a First Class relic, eBay would be legally obligated to stop the sale – the sale of human body parts and remains is forbidden both by law and by eBay policy. (with the exception of the hair from the head – apparently, that is permitted.)
 
AveMaria12 said:
But when there are relics on ebay, it is normally selling only the gold reliquary I find. The relic comes with the reliquary.

One website says this:
“Also you’re never bidding on the relic itself but on the container (frame, theca, reliquary, shrine, etc) the relic will remain as allways a gift to the high bidder.”

Is there are place other than ebay where I can get one, such as from a Passionist provider or something?
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Nobody should be fooled into thinking that a sale of the reliquary with the relic thrown in free is not a sale of the relic. That is a relic sale.
 
That’s good to know.

My parish priest gets relics all the time. He says that normally, in order to get a first-class relic, you have to get express permission from the local bishop to give to people giving out the relics. BUT he says there is a long way around this policy, which he did not disclose to me…🙂 He also said something along the lines of “I didn’t know they would shut down the place, I would have gotten another relic of her.” 😃

Anyways…does anyone know any Passionist order I can contact?
 
thistle said:
Nobody should be fooled into thinking that a sale of the reliquary with the relic thrown in free is not a sale of the relic. That is a relic sale.
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What if it is sold at the price of the reliquary? (I know that some of the sales are so outrageous that it couldn’t be the price of the reliquary) My parish priest talked about buying the reliquary and not the relic and that it is okay; I never asked him specifically about whom the buyer was. It could be possible that he bought the reliquary by itself and then got the relic or that he bought the reliquary from an ecclesiastic with the relic in it.:confused:
 
AveMaria12 said:
What if it is sold at the price of the reliquary? (I know that some of the sales are so outrageous that it couldn’t be the price of the reliquary) My parish priest talked about buying the reliquary and not the relic and that it is okay; I never asked him specifically about whom the buyer was. It could be possible that he bought the reliquary by itself and then got the relic or that he bought the reliquary from an ecclesiastic with the relic in it.:confused:
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There is nothing wrong in buying an empty reliquary and using it to contain a relic separately obtained (not purchased).

On another matter some people get relics from religious Orders on condition (not an option) that a donation to the Order is given. In such a situation the relic is being exchanged for money and that constitutes a sale.

Also bear in mind that Canon Law does not differentiate between relic classes. It makes no difference if the relic is 1st class, 2nd class or 3rd class.

Can. 1190 §1 It is absolutely wrong to sell sacred relics.
 
I guess when the reliquary is sold with the relic, one is using the relic to artificially increase the price.
 
AveMaria12 said:
I guess when the reliquary is sold with the relic, one is using the relic to artificially increase the price.
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The test would be to see if the place selling these items sells an empty identical reliquary to the one containing a relic for the same price.
 
thistle said:
The test would be to see if the place selling these items sells an empty identical reliquary to the one containing a relic for the same price.
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Once I went into a Catholic bookstore into the medal section. They were selling medals without relics and the exact medals with relics at the same price.
 
You can actually buy 3th class relics that’s not forbidden!

But I did once mail the monastary in Cascia for a relic of Saint Rita and got one. You could maybe find out a order that’s close with Saint Maria goretti.
 
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