St Mary of Zion, The Ark, and Ethiopian Orthodoxy...

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I’ve recently come upon this Church in Axum, Ethiopia called St. Mary of Zion. This Church is part of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and it claims to hold the actual Ark of the Covenant. So here are my questions.

1.) Is the Ethiopian Orthodox church part of the Orthodox Communion?

2.) What is the actual basis for this claim of holding the True Ark? Is it real? or is it just a symbolic or traditional thing?

It seems kinda sketchy to me. But what do i know? I’m only a kid. :rolleyes:

God Bless 😃
 
1.) Is the Ethiopian Orthodox church part of the Orthodox Communion?
They’re part of an Orthodox Communion. The largest Orthodox Church is the Eastern Orthodox. The second is the Oriental Orthodox. They’re generally very similar except for a few points. I believe we even share many classes at Seminary.
2.) What is the actual basis for this claim of holding the True Ark? Is it real? or is it just a symbolic or traditional thing?
As far as I know it’s not a symbolic thing - they do believe they hold it at a monastery in Ethiopia. I believe there is also a sort of symbolic representation of it in each parish or something, someone told me something like that once, but I could be wrong.
 
1.) Is the Ethiopian Orthodox church part of the Orthodox Communion?
Don’t know. I do believe they have the most books in their version of the Bible
2.) What is the actual basis for this claim of holding the True Ark? Is it real? or is it just a symbolic or traditional thing?
The basis is that the Ark was taken there from Israel in the ancient days
 
The best way to learn more is try “The History Channel”, “National Geographic”, “Biblical Archaeology Review”. Research the websites or order videos on the subject. There have been past stories that suggested the Queen of Sheba, or her son by King Solomon… Menalek made a copy of the Ark for themselves, and there people.:bible1:
 
The Ethiopian church was a major reason why I left the evangelical church for the roman catholic church. It has many of the same Sacred Traditions but developed isolated from Europe

Check out this video on YouTube:

youtube.com/watch?v=MbLS3jLysEM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
With all due respect to both yourself and your church, how does the Ethiopian Tawahedo Church lead one to Roman Catholicism instead of to an Orthodox Church? There are a few similarities between the Ethiopian and Roman Churches, but there are a lot of similarities between Orthodoxy of any Communion and the Ethiopian Church because, well, Tawahedo just means “Orthodox.” They’re even in Communion with the Coptic and Armenian Orthodox - they’re the same Church.

So…why Roman Catholic because of Ethiopian Tawahedo?
 
With all due respect to both yourself and your church, how does the Ethiopian Tawahedo Church lead one to Roman Catholicism instead of to an Orthodox Church? There are a few similarities between the Ethiopian and Roman Churches, but there are a lot of similarities between Orthodoxy of any Communion and the Ethiopian Church because, well, Tawahedo just means “Orthodox.”
The full name is Ethiopian Orthodox Tawahedo Church. Tawahedo refers to the Miaphysite teaching that Christ has one united nature. Orthodox means correct faith. 🙂
 
The full name is Ethiopian Orthodox Tawahedo Church. Tawahedo refers to the Miaphysite teaching that Christ has one united nature. Orthodox means correct faith. 🙂
You’re right - I was told otherwise and just accepted it, but looking up the definition, you’re correct.

At any rate though, my question still stands.
 
With all due respect to both yourself and your church, how does the Ethiopian Tawahedo Church lead one to Roman Catholicism instead of to an Orthodox Church?
Not all Catholics are Latins. There is an Ethiopian Catholic Church. Perhaps this is the Church the poster is a member of?
 
Not all Catholics are Latins. There is an Ethiopian Catholic Church. Perhaps this is the Church the poster is a member of?
I’m Orthodox, I’m very familiar with your Easterners, but Adamski says he went to the Roman Catholic Church after being inspired by the Ethiopian Church.

Perhaps it’s an issue with my perspective. To me any similarity between the Ethiopian Church and the Roman Church is tenuous at best, and I can’t see how one would see Ethiopian practice and conclude “I should become Roman!”

Nevertheless, I look forward to hearing from Adamski.
 
This thread is very funny. I know the OP didn’t mean it that way, but it still makes me smile. 😃

As Zekariya points out, “Tewahedo” means “being made one” or “unified”, in reference to the miaphysite belief shared by all the Oriental Orthodox Churches. It is related to the Arabic word “tawhid”, which is most often heard by Westerners in explanations of Islamic “monotheism”. The word “Orthodox” is the same in basically all languages (okay, okay…fine, Slavs…“Pravoslavniy”…whatever). The full name of the Ethiopian Church in the original is “Ye-It’yop’iya Ortodoks Tewahedo Betakristyan” (“Betakrisytan” = “House of the Christians”, or “Church”).

I’m going to have to disagree with Zekariya’s idea that the Church was established by the Copts. I know it’s a matter of perspective, as it is true that St. Athanasius the Apostolic sent the first bishops, but we should remember that St. Frumentius/Abba Selama was not himself a Copt. He was a Syriac person, and Ethiopian tradition itself regarding the founding of their own Church credits Abba Selama and his brother Adesius (I can’t remember what, if any, honorific he is given by the Ethiopians) as the ones who established Christianity in Ethiopia, with certain Biblical antecedents (i.e., the Ethiopian eunuch). Anyone interested in the Orthodox Tewahedo view of their own history would do well to read this link.

As to the rest of it, the Ethiopian Orthodox will certainly have nothing to do with the Latins in any significant portion, barring the affinity for Catholicism among some people (mostly in Eritrea). The Portuguese helped start that (when using their military in order to help secure the presence of their church in that country in exchange for helping the Ethiopians repel the Islamic horde of Ahmed Gragn), and the Italians did that Church no favors by trying repeatedly to colonize Ethiopia, and thanks be to God they failed and were turned back repeatedly (at Adwa in 1896 and again in 1941 after the Fascist Italians stretched themselves too thin and were chased out by Ethiopian and Allied forces). Nobody will conquer the Ethiopians. The Italians learned it, the Somalis learned it…even the Ethiopians themselves learned it (or at least the ones who had been the Derg learned it). To talk to Tewahedo people about their country’s history, this is entirely a matter of divine providence. To this day, the highland people who first accepted Christianity (Amhara, Tigray, etc.) are still overwhelmingly Christian, and resistant to both Islam and Protestantism, unlike the people further to the south and east.

How anyone could go from that to the RC…it’s like being inspired to join the Communist Party by the break up of the Soviet Union. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. :confused: I can’t imagine two more disparate churches, in terms of their history, ethos, phronema…whatever you want to call it. Oh well. Stranger things have happened.

For your edification, a Tewahedo mezmur (popular spiritual song): “Tewahedo Haymanote”Tewahedo, my faith / you are the ancient faith of my mothers and fathers / I will never break my cross necklace / Tewahedo will live forever 👍
 
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