St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church in Baltimore and Gay Marriage

[Elizium23]

I am not so sure about that. My understanding is that valid marriages can not be dissolved, but non-consummated marriages can be.

The quote you offer does not say that a valid marriage may not be dissolved, it says that a ratum et consummatum marriage may not be.
Canon Law:

Can. 1061 §1. A valid marriage between the baptized is called ratum tantum [established only] if it has not been consummated; it is called ratum et consummatum [established and consummated] if the spouses have performed between themselves in a human fashion a conjugal act which is suitable in itself for the procreation of offspring, to which marriage is ordered by its nature and by which the spouses become one flesh.

As you can see, a non-consummated marriage can still be valid (or invalid). A marriage can only be dissolved if it were valid. If a marriage is invalid, there is no bond to dissolve.

 

[Hmgbrd]

It’s another Burger King church, this time presenting itself as Catholic .

 

[Gods_Peace]

They should have more respect and not confect the Eucharist when they know they are not in communion with Rome.

 

[Dale_M]

The quote you offer does not say that a valid marriage may not be dissolved, it says that a ratum et consummatum marriage may not be.

The quote from canon law which I cited states that valid marriages may not be dissolved, but that unconsummated marriages may.

As you can see, a non-consummated marriage can still be valid (or invalid). A marriage can only be dissolved if it were valid. If a marriage is invalid, there is no bond to dissolve. A marriage can only be dissolved if it were valid. If a marriage is invalid, there is no bond to dissolve.

I dunno… my understanding is that the Church does not dissolve valid marriages. In the case of annulments, the tribunal declares that a valid marriage did not take place.

Edit:

No, I guess you are right.

2. In Catholic teaching consummation is not required for a valid marriage, only the ability to consummate is required. A non consummated marriage can be dissolved, however it is still a valid marriage. A consummated marriage cannot be dissolved. So it is untrue to state that a non consummated marriage is an invalid marriage, it is just not indissoluble

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=737961&highlight=consummated

 

[Dale_M]

This appears to be a new church started by two homosexuals. They make no claims of seminary training or valid ordination.

Yes, the pastor and the pastor emeritus are “life partners.” They are also the archbishop and the vicar general of their denomination, which as far as I can tell consists of that one church.

 

[tabycat]

Sounds like anybody sees this should head away from this ‘church’. I do not think they are telling the truth to anybody, including themselves. :

 

[lakotak]

Sounds like anybody sees this should head away from this ‘church’. I do not think they are telling the truth to anybody, including themselves. :

I pray that they do not have a RCIA program that some poor perspective soul could wonder into because they affiliate themselves with the name Catholic.

 

[budsmom]

The “archbishop” and “monsignor” are both fakes. I mean, who wears their “dresses” out in public unless you are conducting a church ceremony? Their theology schooling is questionable at best. All fake. Playing priests, that’s all. The monsignor has no more business counseling anyone due to the fact no therapy training. They both live in a little “play” world of their own. RUN!

Oh, and by the way…Wm. Christ’s assertion of being a Vietnam vet LOL He was in Navy in the Sea of China, NOT in combat, and rumored to have been dishonorably discharged and picked up at sea and sent back to states. in the middle of the Vietnam War! You all figure THAT one out!

 

[odile53]

Well, whatever they are, they certainly have a nerve taking St. Michael as their patron and the name of their decidedly irregular church if they are pretending to be Catholic! I don’t think St. Michael would approve, and I certainly wouldn’t want to mess with him!