St. Nectarios Church

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I went to a Greek Fest at a parish in Palatine yesterday. It is called St. Nectarious and I stepped into the church but realized they are not in union with the catholic church. Their website is www.stnectariosgoc.org.

My interest is in their religious education. At the site it outlines their program and expections for what they will be taught and will know. It’s rather mind blowing how much information they are expected to know IMHO. I did like their expectations for behavior at Divine Liturgy though, because I checked their site out before going to the fest and hoped I could enter the church, and did- with a good outline of what to do and not do inside. No one was in it, nor services going on but it sure was nice to know what the rules were beforehand.
Also they had cards for emergencies for Orthodox Christians “I am an Orthodox Christian In case of emergency please call my Orthodox Priest”
I’m guessing anyone that serious to carry a card like that likely does not have many unconfessed sins on them anyway, but that’s another digression from my actual question here.

What is different about the Eastern Catholic Rites from this? Can anyone reccomend an Eastern Catholic Rite parish in the Chicago area that is worth a visit? I loved it, but want to stick with Catholic rites before venturing into areas outside of the Catholic rites. I just want to stick to my list.
 
StrawberryJam said:
What is different about the Eastern Catholic Rites from this?
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Not much difference, EC parishes might have abbreviations in the liturgy and might not have as many icons.

Orthodox will have only one liturgy, unless there is a sorely pressing need (such as allowing a second parish to have a liturgy while their on building is under repair…that sort of thing.)

Eastern Catholic parishes often have more than one liturgy on a weekend. You would need to call ahead to find out the time for the English one.

The Greek parish you visited would have used the Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom/Saint Basil. The EC parishes that use that liturgy are known as Byzantine. In the Chicagoland area there are Ukrainian Catholics parishes, one Melkite parish and one Ruthenian parish. There are also two parishes in Aurora of the Romanian Catholic church.

There is also a Maronite parish and the cathedral for the Syro-Malabar Catholic diocese in Bellwood. Both of their respective liturgies are variants of the liturgy of Saint James, actually the oldest form of Christian liturgy of all.
StrawberryJam said:
Can anyone reccomend an Eastern Catholic Rite parish in the Chicago area that is worth a visit? I loved it, but want to stick with Catholic rites before venturing into areas outside of the Catholic rites. I just want to stick to my list.
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Good idea.

The absolute hands down best Eastern Catholic parish I am aware of in Chicagoland is rather a haul from the Palatine area, Annunciation BC (Ruthenian) parish southward in Homer Glen. The pastor is outstanding and has a radio program, he is well known as an speaker on Theology of the Body as well (not necessarily a Byzantine thing, but it melds OK). I was a member there myself for years. The choir is pretty good.

For one much closer to you, I could point you to Saint Joseph’s Ukrainian Catholic parish on Cumberland in Chicago, not far from the Kennedy expressway. But I found the English liturgy there an enormous disappointment so I don’t feel I can recommend it very strongly.

Ss Volodymyr and Olha would be worth a trip. Very authentic liturgy. I do not know if they have an English liturgy yet or ever intend to. A very ethnic parish, the type that can seem clannish to an outsider.

There are a few other Ukrainian parishes but I cannot recommend them.

There is a Melkite parish in Northlake I can recommend, only half the distance of Homer Glen. From Palatine it should be almost the same drive as the parish on Cumberland

There was a Maronite parish in Hillside when I was looking years ago, unfortunately it was highly Latinized at the time I was there. It seems to have moved to Lombard, nicer digs than before. Perhaps the liturgical situation has improved, I am glad they are doing well.

I would recommend the parish in Homer Glen first, Northlake second and the Maronite parish in Lombard may be worth a look, but I cannot recommend it based upon what I remember. If you go, please tell us what you think of the liturgy.

Pax et Bonum,
 
StrawberryJam said:
What is different about the Eastern Catholic Rites from this?
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Not much difference, EC parishes might have abbreviations in the liturgy and might not have as many icons.

Orthodox will have only one liturgy, unless there is a sorely pressing need (such as allowing a second parish to have a liturgy while their on building is under repair…that sort of thing.)

Eastern Catholic parishes often have more than one liturgy on a weekend. You would need to call ahead to find out the time for the English one.

The Greek parish you visited would have used the Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom/Saint Basil. The EC parishes that use that liturgy are known as Byzantine. In the Chicagoland area there are Ukrainian Catholics parishes, one Melkite parish and one Ruthenian parish. There are also two parishes in Aurora of the Romanian Catholic church.

There is also a Maronite parish and the cathedral for the Syro-Malabar Catholic diocese in Bellwood. Both of their respective liturgies are variants of the liturgy of Saint James, actually the oldest form of Christian liturgy of all.
StrawberryJam said:
Can anyone reccomend an Eastern Catholic Rite parish in the Chicago area that is worth a visit? I loved it, but want to stick with Catholic rites before venturing into areas outside of the Catholic rites. I just want to stick to my list.
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Good idea.

The absolute hands down best Eastern Catholic parish I am aware of in Chicagoland is rather a haul from the Palatine area, Annunciation BC (Ruthenian) parish southward in Homer Glen. The pastor is outstanding and has a radio program, he is well known as a speaker on Theology of the Body as well (not necessarily a Byzantine thing, but it melds OK). I was a member there myself for years. The choir is pretty good.

For one much closer to you, I could point you to Saint Joseph’s Ukrainian Catholic parish on Cumberland in Chicago, not far from the Kennedy expressway. But I found the English liturgy there an enormous disappointment so I don’t feel I can recommend it very strongly.

Ss Volodymyr and Olha would be worth a trip. Very authentic liturgy. I do not know if they have an English liturgy yet or ever intend to. A very ethnic parish, the type that can seem clannish to an outsider.

There are a few other Ukrainian Catholic parishes but I cannot recommend them.

There is a Melkite parish in Northlake I can recommend, only half the distance of Homer Glen. From Palatine it should be just a bit further than the parish on Cumberland, but it would be worth the drive.

There was a Maronite parish in Hillside when I was looking years ago, unfortunately it was highly Latinized at the times I visited. It seems to have moved to Lombard, nicer appearing digs than before. Perhaps the liturgical situation has improved, I am glad they are doing well.

I would recommend the parish in Homer Glen first, Northlake second and the Maronite parish in Lombard may be worth a look, but I cannot recommend it based upon what I remember. If you go, please tell us what you think of the liturgy.

Pax et Bonum, (and good luck)
 
StrawberryJam said:
What is different about the Eastern Catholic Rites from this?
Click to expand...
Not much difference, EC parishes might have abbreviations in the liturgy and might not have as many icons.

Orthodox will have only one liturgy, unless there is a sorely pressing need (such as allowing a second parish to have a liturgy while their own building is under repair…that sort of thing.)

Eastern Catholic parishes often have more than one liturgy on a weekend. You would need to call ahead to find out the time for the English one.

The Greek parish you visited would have used the Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom/Saint Basil. The EC parishes that use that liturgy are known as Byzantine. In the Chicagoland area there are Ukrainian Catholics parishes, one Melkite parish and one Ruthenian parish. There are also two parishes in Aurora of the Romanian Catholic church.

There is also a Maronite parish and the cathedral for the Syro-Malabar Catholic diocese in Bellwood. Both of their respective liturgies are variants of the liturgy of Saint James, actually the oldest form of Christian liturgy of all.
StrawberryJam said:
Can anyone recommend an Eastern Catholic Rite parish in the Chicago area that is worth a visit? I loved it, but want to stick with Catholic rites before venturing into areas outside of the Catholic rites. I just want to stick to my list.
Click to expand...
Good idea.

The absolute hands down best Eastern Catholic parish I am aware of in Chicagoland is rather a haul from the Palatine area, Annunciation BC (Ruthenian) parish southward in Homer Glen. The pastor is outstanding and has a radio program, he is well known as a speaker on Theology of the Body as well (not necessarily a Byzantine thing, but it melds OK). I was a member there myself for years. The choir is pretty good.

For one much closer to you, I could point you to Saint Joseph’s Ukrainian Catholic parish on Cumberland in Chicago, not far from the Kennedy expressway. But I found the English liturgy there an enormous disappointment so I don’t feel I can recommend it very strongly.

Ss Volodymyr and Olha would be worth a trip. Very authentic liturgy. I do not know if they have an English liturgy yet or ever intend to. A very ethnic parish, the type that can seem clannish to an outsider.

There are a few other Ukrainian Catholic parishes but I cannot recommend them.

There is a Melkite parish in Northlake I can recommend, only half the distance of Homer Glen. From Palatine it should be just a bit further than the parish on Cumberland, but it would be worth the drive.

There was a Maronite parish in Hillside when I was looking years ago, unfortunately it was highly Latinized at the times I visited. It seems to have moved to Lombard, nicer appearing digs than before. Perhaps the liturgical situation has improved, I am glad they are doing well. (I cannot insert a workable link for some reason).

I would recommend the parish in Homer Glen first, Northlake second and the Maronite parish in Lombard may be worth a look, but I cannot recommend it based upon what I remember. If you go, please tell us what you think of the liturgy.

Pax et Bonum, (and good luck)
 
Thank you so much Hesychios,

You gave me great information to work with here.🙂

I really felt something there. Peace, I guess.
 
StrawberryJam said:
Thank you so much Hesychios,

You gave me great information to work with here.🙂

I really felt something there. Peace, I guess.
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Give me a few minutes to look up what parishes are in that area. That church is VERY close to my aunt’s old house. I know the area somewhat well (considering I don’t live there).
 
Small addendum/correction to Hesychios’ post:

The Maronites in Lombard and the Syro-Malankara Parish in Evanston celebrate the most ancient Liturgy of St. James.

The Syro-Malabar Cathedral in Bellwood prays, as do the Chaldeans on the NW side of the City - the Liturgy of Sts. Addai and Mari.
 
Just a note, the church in Evanston is St. James Armenian Orthodox Church. As that city is where I was raised, the church is Eastern Orthodox and there are numerous others if one would google the topic.

Enjoy 🙂
 
SyroMalankara said:
Small addendum/correction to Hesychios’ post:

The Maronites in Lombard and the Syro-Malankara Parish in Evanston celebrate the most ancient Liturgy of St. James.

The Syro-Malabar Cathedral in Bellwood prays, as do the Chaldeans on the NW side of the City - the Liturgy of Sts. Addai and Mari.
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Thank you for the correction.

I had not realized that the the liturgy of the Chaldeans (and Syro-Malaber Christians) was not considered a type of the Liturgy of Saint James.

Michael
 
Hesychios said:
Thank you for the correction.

I had not realized that the the liturgy of the Chaldeans (and Syro-Malaber Christians) was not considered a type of the Liturgy of Saint James.

Michael
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What is the Liturgy of Saint James? Can I google it?
 
Wildkit said:
Just a note, the church in Evanston is St. James Armenian Orthodox Church. As that city is where I was raised, the church is Eastern Orthodox and there are numerous others if one would google the topic.

Enjoy 🙂
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Armenian Orthodox is not in the Eastern Orthodox Communion, they are part of the Oriental Orthodox Communion - with the Syriacs, Indians, Ethiopians, Copts, and Eritreans.
 
Here are all of the various Eastern Catholic liturgies. Just click along the menu on the left to get to the text. Included are:

The Liturgy of St. Basil
The Chaldean Mass
The Order of the Divine and Holy Liturgy of Our Father Among the Saints Gregory the Theologian (The Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts)
The Liturgy of St. James
The Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom
The Liturgy of St. Mark
The Holy Qorbono

faswebdesign.com/ECPA/Worship/overview.html
 
SyroMalankara said:
Armenian Orthodox is not in the Eastern Orthodox Communion, they are part of the Oriental Orthodox Communion - with the Syriacs, Indians, Ethiopians, Copts, and Eritreans.
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My mistake, and thank you for the correction!

I inferred the OP was desiring Eastern Catholic services and when I knew that the church identified was not Catholic, I tried to make certain of the little I knew.

I am learning what the differences are between Oriental and Eastern Catholics, but in the end, I believe we are all the same!

This will be a great example for my Faith Formation class next year. Your perspective is appreciated! 👍
 
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