St pauls lost letters

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lavazza said:
i was just curious, as to what our church would do, paul said a lot of the same things in his letters, but in all the letters, he added a new idea, or twist. and what if he added a whole new theological area? just thinking, thats all
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Actually, guys, I think lavazza has it right, at least partially.

If Paul’s (or any other of the Apostolic writers letters) were found AND they were found to be authentic, they COULD be considered for the Canon. They wouldn’t automatically be considered “Inspired”, though. Just because Paul wrote them, doesn’t mean they are automatically inspired. If the Church determined that they were “God Breathed”, then they probably would be added to the NT Canon.

Man, what kind of a fire-storm would that bring about?
 
lavazza said:
i am a catholic,.but if i was to really name myself, i would call myself a paulist. I think he was the MAN. so any writings of paul, in my view, should be in the bible. The more i study him, i realize. he save jesus’s message. All the other apostle’s wanted to make christianity a offshoot of the judaism. I think it is wild, that after all the other apostles’s spent years with jesus, they did not see the true message. god had to get paul to save it.
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I’m very curious how you came to this conclusion. Paul’s letters were mainly meant to correct errors in local churches. It wasn’t the Apostles writings that tried to make Christianity a Judaic off-shoot, it was the Jews who saw themselves soon to be the minority in a Gentile Church.
 
YADA said:
Lots of early Christian writings did not make it into the Canon of the Church. Some may have also been ‘inspired’. There may have been many inspired Christian writings between the Apostles time and today…
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I’m confused by this quote. If God inspired someone to write something, the Church has always considered this Holy Scripture. Why
 
Paul identifies his mission as being to the gentiles and he does travel into gentile country but Paul is continuosly preaching to his fellow Jewish brethren. The Socratic strawman for paul is almost always a Jew…I think Paul was working hard to appeal to the to gentile in an effort to make his Jewish brethren jealous and get them to recognize the Messiah. I think Paul would have given his life to convert the Jews…

Paul was a highly trained pharisee, a much different apostle than the fisherman Peter. A man of letters. I don’t think that his message was that different than the other apostles, but he came to Christ at a different time and probably for a different reason.

The early Church thought that Jesus was going to return in their life time. Even Paul initially had that understanding…but in reality the Church had to adjust its understanding as the realization that the second coming would be delayed…

As for adding any newly found letters of Paul…Nothing found in them could possibly change the core teachings or beliefs of the Church, so they would be interesting to study. Thye would not need to be canonical.
 
lavazza said:
i was just curious, as to what our church would do, paul said a lot of the same things in his letters, but in all the letters, he added a new idea, or twist. and what if he added a whole new theological area? just thinking, thats all
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Well for me, that would just prove that they weren’t inspired at all.
I mean, you could find, I suppose, a 1000 page novel by any of the apostles, but that wouldn’t make it true. It would just make for prof that Paul (or whomever) also wrote fiction. Or letters to friends, or his laundry list.
The canon of Scripture was closed for a reason: Because it was completed.
Anything that showed up now, would just be personal opinion.
 
That is what i was thinking. What a uproar, that would cause, It wouyld be very interesting. And i would put nothing past god, to rtry to seperate the real church from the phonies.
 
Well, in my opinion He’s left it a bit late to add anything new and revolutionary to Catholicism.

2000 years worth of Christians have died believing what He allowed them to have.
Thats, lemme see … 1 billion Catholics this year … extrapolate backwards for 2000 years … hmm

Do you think He’d pull a couple of new letters out of His hat now and say “ha…gotcha … sorry, no-one got to heaven cause I did’nt feel like giving them the full story.” " …but, of course… now you know everything you need."…🙂
 
it was just a interesting thought, trying to get a debate going, by the way, i got a warning for having a duplicate threat going, what does that mean?
 
It means you’ve got the same [type] of subject in the header of another thread somewhere. In the interests of economy and so on it may be made into one single thread.
 
Guys, I"m still not sure if I’m buying it.

If any one of the two lost letters to the Corinthians were examined by the Church, and thought to inspired, they would be added to the NT Canon.

They wouldn’t automatically be called inspired, though.
 
lavazza said:
it was just a interesting thought, trying to get a debate going, by the way, i got a warning for having a duplicate threat going, what does that mean?
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If you have a particular question, you can if you like do a search first to see if there are any other threads that have answered it. Your question was probably answered already.
 
thistle said:
How do we know that he wrote two letters which are lost?
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In 1 and 2 Corinthians, Paul mentions some letters that he wrote. I don’t remember the details, but maybe in 1 Corinthians, he mentions that he already wrote a letter to the Church in Corinth. And in 2 Corinthians, he mentions a previous letter with some details about it that are not in 1 or 2 Corinthians.

It’s generally accepted that there were 2 additional letters to Corinth. But think about it. There’s probably dozens of letters of Paul’s to various churches that are lost.
 
It must be gods will, that we do not have them,. Just like i Isaiah’s book. He keeps on hitting us on the head with it. Examples: the best preserved of the dead sea scrolls, the writing on the wailing wall etc.all Isaiah. I think he is trying to tell us something.
 
Well, if authentic epistles of Paul were discovered, that would just mean that there was that much more material to demonstrate the truth of Lutheran doctrine.
 
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