St. Peter as a Disciple

[adstrinity]

St. Matthew & St. Mark put his following Jesus as being called at the same time, from the shore, as they were both on a boat, as his brother, St. Andrew.

St. John says that his brother, St. Andrew, approached him, after he left St. John the Baptist to follow Christ, to tell him they have found the Messiah.

How are these two accounts reconciled?

 

[MtGargano]

St. Matthew & St. Mark put his following Jesus as being called at the same time, from the shore, as they were both on a boat, as his brother, St. Andrew.

St. John says that his brother, St. Andrew, approached him, after he left St. John the Baptist to follow Christ, to tell him they have found the Messiah.

How are these two accounts reconciled?

These are two different incidents ?, they dont need to be reconciled ?..St.John’s incident makes more sense to have happend first ?..

Andrew could have very well said from the boat, (in St. Matthews)…and there He is now ?

 

[adstrinity]

St. John: 1:41-42:

He findeth first his brother Simon, and saith to him: We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ. [42] And he brought him to Jesus. And Jesus looking upon him, said: Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is interpreted Peter.

The Gospels of St. Matthew & St. Mark said they were called from the boat at the same time.

 

[Crumpy]

what difference does it make?

 

[MtGargano]

St. John: 1:41-42:

He findeth first his brother Simon, and saith to him: We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ. [42] And he brought him to Jesus. And Jesus looking upon him, said: Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is interpreted Peter.

The Gospels of St. Matthew & St. Mark said they were called from the boat at the same time.

i see no contradiction…Andrew introducing Peter to Jesus after leaving John the Baptist, doesnt mean Peter and Andrew were not called from the boat sometime after the evening of that introduction.

can you elaborate on what you think the contradiction is ?

 

[adstrinity]

St. Matthew 4:18-20
And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19] And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men. [20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

St. Mark 1:16-19
And passing by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother, casting nets into the sea (for they were fishermen). [17] And Jesus said to them: Come after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. [18] And immediately leaving their nets, they followed him.

This is the story of how Jesus calls his first disciples according to these Gospels, BUT, like I said, in St. John, Jesus doesn’t call St. Andrew or St. Peter. St. Andrew starts following Jesus and then informs his brother about it. THEN, we get the ROCK statement (St. John).

Did He call them to be His desciples as such or did those two come to Him first and then He called others?

These are all the accounts of how He got His disciples. Is there a reason why there are two differences? Is John just trying to be higher as usual and he doesn’t really care about the boat; that was not what he cared about?

 

[MtGargano]

St. Matthew 4:18-20
And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19] And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men. [20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

St. Mark 1:16-19
And passing by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother, casting nets into the sea (for they were fishermen). [17] And Jesus said to them: Come after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. [18] And immediately leaving their nets, they followed him.

This is the story of how Jesus calls his first disciples according to these Gospels, BUT, like I said, in St. John, Jesus doesn’t call St. Andrew or St. Peter. St. Andrew starts following Jesus and then informs his brother about it. THEN, we get the ROCK statement (St. John).

Did He call them to be His desciples as such or did those two come to Him first and then He called others?

These are all the accounts of how He got His disciples. Is there a reason why there are two differences? Is John just trying to be higher as usual and he doesn’t really care about the boat; that was not what he cared about?

 

[MtGargano]

St. Matthew 4:18-20
And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19] And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men. [20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

St. Mark 1:16-19
And passing by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother, casting nets into the sea (for they were fishermen). [17] And Jesus said to them: Come after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. [18] And immediately leaving their nets, they followed him.

This is the story of how Jesus calls his first disciples according to these Gospels, BUT, like I said, in St. John, Jesus doesn’t call St. Andrew or St. Peter. St. Andrew starts following Jesus and then informs his brother about it. THEN, we get the ROCK statement (St. John).

Did He call them to be His deciples as such or did those two come to Him first and then He called others?

These are all the accounts of how He got His disciples. Is there a reason why there are two differences? Is John just trying to be higher as usual and he doesn’t really care about the boat; that was not what he cared about?

He called His disciples the way the Gospels describes it…theres only a “difference” if you are labelling the introduction as a “calling” of Peter…thus two callings of Peter, the other from the boat…is that what youre getting at ?

i cant speak to why St. John didnt mention the boat, but its interesting that Matthew’s Gospel speaks of John’s calling from a boat a couple verses after Peters…

Blessings

 

[Vince1022]

St. Matthew & St. Mark put his following Jesus as being called at the same time, from the shore, as they were both on a boat, as his brother, St. Andrew.

St. John says that his brother, St. Andrew, approached him, after he left St. John the Baptist to follow Christ, to tell him they have found the Messiah.

How are these two accounts reconciled?

They both say Peter followed Christ.

 

[thistle]

St. Matthew 4:18-20
And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19] And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men. [20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

St. Mark 1:16-19
And passing by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother, casting nets into the sea (for they were fishermen). [17] And Jesus said to them: Come after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. [18] And immediately leaving their nets, they followed him.

This is the story of how Jesus calls his first disciples according to these Gospels, BUT, like I said, in St. John, Jesus doesn’t call St. Andrew or St. Peter. St. Andrew starts following Jesus and then informs his brother about it. THEN, we get the ROCK statement (St. John).

Did He call them to be His desciples as such or did those two come to Him first and then He called others?

These are all the accounts of how He got His disciples. Is there a reason why there are two differences? Is John just trying to be higher as usual and he doesn’t really care about the boat; that was not what he cared about?

Like the other posters, I don’t see what the problem is.