St. Therese Lisieux worldly photographs

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No… the photo’s of St. Therese… in costume… as St. Joan of Arc are not scandalous! On the contrary… they show a lovely young girl… participating in a virtuous activity (a play, depicting the life of another saint; Remember, our late Holy Father Pope John Paul II… was also an actor). These photo’s are a glimpse into the very human existance of a holy young lady… a simple, cloistered nun… who is now a Doctor of the Church!

I love these photo’s! This could be any of us!
 
7rosario said:
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I also noticed that St. Pius X called St. Therese the greatest Saint of modern times, but I see that St. Therese is not a physically incorrupt saint, while a few of her contemporaries are incorrupt: St. Mary Mazzarello, St. John Bosco, and St. Pius X himself. . .
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St. Therese herself knew - as she writes in her autobiography - that her body would not be miraculously preserved from corruption, since that to her mind signifies a greatness she did not seek after. She sought, instead, to be someone that all people could emulate in doing little things for God, even down to turning to dust and bones. That is why the Pope recognized her place in the modern world: she is a Saint for all. It seems you need to learn more about her.
 
7rosario said:
I was a bit scandalized by the fact that St. Therese allowed herself to be photographed in a theatrical costume in a wordly pose, when she was a nun, and also shortly before she entered the convent, dressed in an unbecoming fashion. Could this be explained somehow?

I also noticed that St. Pius X called St. Therese the greatest Saint of modern times, but I see that St. Therese is not a physically incorrupt saint, while a few of her contemporaries are incorrupt: St. Mary Mazzarello, St. John Bosco, and St. Pius X himself.

St. Bernadette and St. Gemma allowed themselves to be photographed, but in a praying pose.

if you regard these pictures as scandalous then you must be going around with a brown paper bag over your head to avoid the clothing ,or lack of it, shown by today,s media,and by catholics in and out of church.

St. Therese Liseux at age 15 shortly before going to the convent: oyemagazine.org/files/imce/St__Therese_of_Lisieux.jpg

A picture of St. Therese of Lisieux dressed as St. Joan of Arc (a play she wrote and acted out for her sister in the Convent): thelittleway.com/images/products/290.jpg

Thérèse of Lisieux dressed as Joan of Arc Lisieux, France, 1894.: radio.weblogs.com/0144108/images/2005/03/23/st_therese.Joan.arc.jpg

Close up photo of St. Therese’ face, when she was dressed as Joan of Arc: images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://catho62-lievin.cef.fr/images/therese14.jpg&imgrefurl=http://catho62-lievin.cef.fr/vie_paroisse/ste_therese.htm&h=400&w=300&sz=14&hl=en&start=6&sig2=IaYoYfbm_eQXUw8tFu7nUw&tbnid=qF2RrnhJVvsWQM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&ei=w3yXR8ynHpiCiAHG5ITPCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtherese%2Blisieux%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
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I always liked the pictures of St. Therese dressed up to play
St. Joan of Arc, pictures of a Saint portraying another Saint!

I don’t see anything wrong with the photographs myself.
 
Certainly I have never seen a photograph of St. Therese either prior to or after her entering Carmel that I found distasteful. It is still customary in some Orders, including the contemplative Orders, for novices to put on a play at Christmas and other celebrations in the convent or monastery…often it is a nativity play where novices may dress as St. Joseph and Our Lady, shepherds and the Magi…angels…or it may be some play written by the novices with characters they have created themselves. Providing, of course, there are numbers in the noviciate. Blessings - barb:)
 
Not a one of the photos of St. Therese is scandalous, nor are the photos of Sts. Gemma and Bernadette.

And neither is this photo of St. Gianna Beretta Molla, taken as she held (I assume) one of her own babies.

Saints live in the world, just as we all do.
 
…keep in mind- they didn’t know they were “saints” at the time…be kind hearted …God has a wonderful sense of humor:love:
 
The journey of holiness and sanctity does not end until death…and many of our saints have started out on that journey very strangely indeed! I am reminded of our great St. Francis of Assisi who at the commencement of his journey paraded up and down in front of his rich merchant father’s house stark naked disowning his father. I guess that would be pretty scandalous (though funny) if we had a picture of that astounding scene…Yes, God has a sense of the funny:thumbsup: …Blessings - Barb
 
HOPEFUL_IN_UK said:
I was just reminded of this amusing website by somebody who is scandalized everytime the Pope cracks a smile or puts on a silly hat:

traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A190rcRatzHats.htm

(Scroll down to bottom of page for more scandalous Pope behavior. ;))
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Have to admit, I find the reaction to World Youth Day rather hilarious. Karl Keating did an e-letter on it.

traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A121rcWYD_05_FreeLove.htm

Check out the second picture, in which " adolescents of both sexes sleeping close to each other without any barrier to prevent their bad instincts from developing. " :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
7rosario said:
I was a bit scandalized by the fact that St. Therese allowed herself to be photographed in a theatrical costume in a wordly pose, when she was a nun, and also shortly before she entered the convent, dressed in an unbecoming fashion. . . .

St. Therese Liseux at age 15 shortly before going to the convent: oyemagazine.org/files/imce/St__Therese_of_Lisieux.jpg
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This photo simply depicts her as what she was at the time: the youngest daughter of a prosperous family; she is dressed entirely suitably for her status in life then. (St. Francis de Sales instructed his niece, Jane Frances de Chantal - who also would be a Saint - to dress modestly but appropriate to her state in life.) St. Therese’s hair is up so she would appear older than her fifteen years so as to gain permission to join the monastery.
 
Of the pictures I’d seen of St. Therese, I was surprised by your post, thinking I may have missed some. The portrayals of St. Joan, I had missed - but see nothing scandalous in either them or the photo before entering the convent.
 
7rosario said:
I also noticed that St. Pius X called St. Therese the greatest Saint of modern times, but I see that St. Therese is not a physically incorrupt saint, while a few of her contemporaries are incorrupt: St. Mary Mazzarello, St. John Bosco, and St. Pius X himself.
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She was incorrupt when she was first exhumed. Her body decayed after that though.

:blessyou:
 
7rosario said:
A picture of St. Therese of Lisieux dressed as St. Joan of Arc (a play she wrote and acted out for her sister in the Convent): thelittleway.com/images/products/290.jpg

Thérèse of Lisieux dressed as Joan of Arc Lisieux, France, 1894.: radio.weblogs.com/0144108/images/2005/03/23/st_therese.Joan.arc.jpg

Close up photo of St. Therese’ face, when she was dressed as Joan of Arc: images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://catho62-lievin.cef.fr/images/therese14.jpg&imgrefurl=http://catho62-lievin.cef.fr/vie_paroisse/ste_therese.htm&h=400&w=300&sz=14&hl=en&start=6&sig2=IaYoYfbm_eQXUw8tFu7nUw&tbnid=qF2RrnhJVvsWQM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&ei=w3yXR8ynHpiCiAHG5ITPCQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtherese%2Blisieux%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
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What’s scandalous, that she was dressing like another saintly girl who dressed like a man, with body armor and all?

Honestly, get a grip. Both St. Therese, a Doctor of the Church, and St. Joan are patron saints of France and you’re not.

It reminds me of Fr. Groeschel’s warning against trying to be like angels and ending up being like beasts.

:blessyou:
 
You have your rights and good for you, there is no reason why you can’t have them.
I looked at all the photos and even the ones of the present Pope who some say are questionable.
However I love the photos of the three young princessess of God.
After all it is God Himself who states who will and who will not be accepted as a princess/prince in heaven. These three didn’t know that God had chosen them to be amongst the elect in sainthood,

And that is the point, it is in heaven where the glory is, these young ladies bodies have gone to the dust corrupt or incorrupt.
God allows saints because so many find it heard to follow Jesus so God Himself blesses these people to become examples for those who need a way to follow, be show’n a road to Jesus.

It is after all, Jesus who is blessed not the dead as they are in the human form, all glory goes to Jesus.

Godbless.
 
SeekerJen said:
Not a one of the photos of St. Therese is scandalous, nor are the photos of Sts. Gemma and Bernadette.
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You do realize that no one said the pictures of Sts. Gemma and Bernadette were scandalous don’t you?
 
Saints are real people with lives just like ours. Yes, that’s right we could be saints, and one day others will look back at our family photos, and probably laugh and wonder.:rolleyes:

The photos don’t matter, it is what was in her heart for God that counts.

Blessings
 
I have a biography of Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati with a picture showing him sitting at a table with his friends, wearing a silly hat and drinking wine. I also have a picture of him where he is hanging out with some more friends (boys and girls both:eek: ) and they are preparing to go hiking and mountain climbing. Oh the scandal;)

As the great Saint Teresa of Avila said. “God deliver me from gloomy saints”, to which sentiments I heartily agree.
 
JMJ

Let us keep in mind that the OP has humbly replied and acknowledged that two comments made were true and thoughts to take into consideration.

*”Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom… The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace." *- James 3:13-18

Let them know us by our love.
 
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