Standing and Sitting

[PJM]

=JMJ_coder;6758838]It depends on the culture. In some cultures the posture would be kneeling or genuflection, in others it would be standing, in others it would be prostration, etc.

I humbly disagree.

What ever is worthy of God laone ought to be done!

 

[JMJ_coder]

I humbly disagree.

What ever is worthy of God laone ought to be done!

Huh? I’m saying that different cultures have different signs and gestures of respect (and disrespect).

 

[RyanBlack]

Huh? I’m saying that different cultures have different signs and gestures of respect (and disrespect).

Exactly. Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Christians generally don’t kneel at celebrations of the Eucharist, as in our context, kneeling is understood as being penitential in character, and our understanding of the celebration of the Eucharist is inconsistent with a posture of penitence. For us, standing is the posture or worship. At the specific moments of the words of institution and the epiclesis, many of us bow to the Body and Blood of our Lord. On the other hand, in the context of the Roman Catholic Mass, the posture of kneeling is one that emphasizes adoration, and it is for this reason that I’m not one of those Eastern Christians who lectures Roman Catholics about violating the Council of Nicea by kneeling, since the prohibition against kneeling on Sundays is in the context of understanding kneeling as a posture of penitence. In the Western context of kneeling as a posture of adoration, kneeling at the Mass seems perfectly appropriate. However, in the context of the Eastern Christian tradition of eucharistic celebration, kneeling is out of place.

 

[PJM]

=JMJ_coder;6759095]Huh? I’m saying that different cultures have different signs and gestures of respect (and disrespect).

I understood your point.

In the Divine Presence one ought to show Latria Worship, is my point.

 

[diggerdomer]

Friend, I think you missed the point which is that we are in the REAL Presence of the God that made us. What is the posture most fitting of God’s presence?

Any number of postures is most fitting. God has not decreed that ONE and ONLY ONE posture is most fitting. THe CHurch is free to legislate.

 

[JMJ_coder]

I understood your point.

In the Divine Presence one ought to show Latria Worship, is my point.

Indeed, but latria adoration is primarily interior – the exterior manifestation of our interior state varies.

 

[PJM]

=JMJ_coder;6766109]Indeed, but latria adoration is primarily interior – the exterior manifestation of our interior state varies.

No friend, atually just the opposite our interior devotion is to be manefested exteriorly

Love and prayers,

 

[JMJ_coder]

No friend, atually just the opposite our interior devotion is to be manefested exteriorly

Love and prayers,

Why do I get the feel we’re talking past each other.

 

[mariyka]

Exactly. Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Christians generally don’t kneel at celebrations of the Eucharist, as in our context, kneeling is understood as being penitential in character, and our understanding of the celebration of the Eucharist is inconsistent with a posture of penitence. For us, standing is the posture or worship. At the specific moments of the words of institution and the epiclesis, many of us bow to the Body and Blood of our Lord. On the other hand, in the context of the Roman Catholic Mass, the posture of kneeling is one that emphasizes adoration, and it is for this reason that I’m not one of those Eastern Christians who lectures Roman Catholics about violating the Council of Nicea by kneeling, since the prohibition against kneeling on Sundays is in the context of understanding kneeling as a posture of penitence. In the Western context of kneeling as a posture of adoration, kneeling at the Mass seems perfectly appropriate. However, in the context of the Eastern Christian tradition of eucharistic celebration, kneeling is out of place.

As a Ukrainian Catholic, who also attends Mass with her Latin Rite husband, I can appreciate that either standing or kneeling can be postures of adoration.

 

[diggerdomer]

Friend, I think you missed the point which is that we are in the REAL Presence of the God that made us. What is the posture most fitting of God’s presence?

There are any number of postures that are most fitting. As the Catholic Mass demonstrates.