Star Trek: Picard trailer

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Well, since I started the thread, I’ll weigh in with my 2 cents …. Patrick Stewart, since he started on Next Generation, has always been one of my favorite actors in Star Trek, and I also enjoyed his work on the X-Men films. I was already excited for this series, and this trailer kicked it up a notch. From all accounts, Stewart himself is heavily involved in the story and character development on the new series; not just acting in it. Is that a good or a bad thing? Time will tell.
 
I haven’t seen any of these ‘new’ Star Trek series (cf Dave Bj’s comment above) but I do think that the kind of space opera show that Trek is the template of almost can’t be done today because modern television is too knowing and ironic and won’t support the kind of earnestness that such a show presupposes. Which is why I would be curious to check them out to see how they deal with that (I get the impression they get by by cribbing from shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Marvel movies) but I won’t pay money for CBS All Access just for one tv program.
 
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Dissenting voice here, I love Discovery. It was a slow slowish start but it got going at mid point in season 1, which is warp speed compared to DS9 or TNG. Also Seven’s back! It’ll be fascinating to see how they’ve moved her character on.
 
Good luck, isn’t the CBS All Access their subscription based content?
 
Sisko is overall my favorite captain, because he wasn’t idealized as a “Star Trek Captain” but rather as a nuanced man forced by circumstance to compromise his principles for the greater good. That’s a useful story to tell, a lesson as it were that in war, if the truth is the first casualty, the second casualty is circumstantial morality.

But to some extent DS9’s success at telling a story compromised the entire franchise. Voyager and Enterprise both tried to build on that premise, but whether it was the writing or the acting, or just a general loss of direction, I felt like Roddenberry’s guiding principles for what Star Trek was supposed to be were thrown out the window. Now tough ethical problems weren’t dealt with Solomon-style. There was no philosophy, and the underpinnings of Trek collapsed.

I actually enjoyed Discovery. I’m not sure I liked the style of filming, it’s a little too modern for my tastes, but generally the stories were pretty good, and certainly the second season with Christopher Pike in charge began to feel like the old Trek; an idealistic captain, not afraid to get his hands dirty, but ultimately a good guy who bent rules, but understood why there were rules.

I have some hope for Picard. Patrick Stewart has been heavily involved in the development of the series, and since he largely constructed Jean Luc Picard, I can’t imagine him compromising the character he is most closely identified with. The hints of the timeline, that this is after the destruction of Romulus (and the suggestion that the mass rescue operation he mounted may have failed), I think there’s a way to delve into his character and get new insights. Picard was sort of the anti-Kirk, where Kirk was portrayed as the too-clever-by-half dashing ship’s captain (a bit of a Horatio Hornblower), Picard was the renaissance man; a diplomat, an amateur archaeologist, formidably well read, charismatic in a cool confident way, but in many respects a private man and an introvert who didn’t mind his own company.
 
Data is back let’s go!!!
You need a Data or a Spock, an outsider largely not susceptible to the human condition, though incredibly curious about it. Both Spock and Data were used as omnipotent observers, the foibles and graces of humanity could be measured by their desire to understand their all too human counterparts. I’ve been rewatching TNG, and it strikes me that of all the Enterprise crew, Picard most often relied on Data, both as an impartial adviser and as a perfect mirror on which to measure his own actions. I think it’s a healthy sign for the series that Spiner is returning, at least to some degree, because I think if the writers are very very good, they’ll recognize the symbiotic relationship between Picard and Data, that Picard was Data’s role model for the ideal human, and Data represented the kind of ideal that Picard strove for; the ultimate objective observer.
 
I didn’t notice that. In that case, I’m out. 🙂
 
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Me, too! I pay an enormous amount of money for cable/internet. CBS is included but now they make a pay only app to see specific shows? Ok. It’s their business, they can do what they want. I’d love it if they only got three subscribers! How much unique content are they offering? So far, I’ve only seen or heard about two Star Trek shows. As much as I love Star Treks, that isn’t going to lure me in.
 
Me, too! I pay an enormous amount of money for cable/internet. CBS is included but now they make a pay only app to see specific shows? Ok. It’s their business, they can do what they want. I’d love it if they only got three subscribers! How much unique content are they offering? So far, I’ve only seen or heard about two Star Trek shows. As much as I love Star Treks, that isn’t going to lure me in.
Well said, @Pattylt, well said. I hope in the future television doesn’t consist of every channel being a separate streaming service.
 
My wife and I are planning on binging the shows we want to watch, then cancelling the subscription after a couple months.

I want to see the Twilight Zone by Jordan Peel. (The original is my favorite series of all time and, while I’ve not heard the best things about the new series, I still want to give it a shot.) I’d also like to give Discovery a shot though, again, I’ve not heard great things about it.

Picard… well… Picard is far and away my favorite Star Trek captain, and my favorite character second only to Data. I want to like this show, but what I’ve seen does not inspire hope… Though it does have Data in it… kinda

On the plus side, the trailer made me want to rewatch TNG… Engage!
 
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I think that is where we are headed. We may all be able to cut our cable and save $100 to 150 a month, but we will be paying a dozen content provides 10 dollars a month a piece.
 
I think that is where we are headed. We may all be able to cut our cable and save $100 to 150 a month, but we will be paying a dozen content provides 10 dollars a month a piece.
But will people put up with that? Or will they pick up pitchforks and and march on the palace?
 
Yes they will. The market place will likely sort it all out. What people are willing to pay has been established by the cable companies. As that goes away, people will still be willing to pay the same amount over time. It just will be spread out across more sources. And some will pay more (just as they pay for premium channels on cable now) and some will pay less. But overall, we will likely end up having much more control over the about we pay in total.
 
The cable companies are starting to go into desperation mode due to cord cutting. They are determined to keep their revenue streams up. Have you noticed that if you get TV and internet, the internet portion is very reasonable…soon as you stop the TV portion, your internet costs go way up.

Yes, saving $100 on TV sounds great until you factor in individual station fees and the higher internet cost. My family and I watch little TV but it is often obscure channels. They only seem to be available in packages that have stations I could care less about. Add in the few premium channels I want and suddenly my bill would be higher.

What we really need is competition. My area has one cable company and one DSL company. Most cities are like this. I need the high upload and download speed of cable so I have one choice only! I looked into DSL speeds for my house and it was awful. I feel so trapped by cable and have no alternatives. This is wrong and I’m hoping at some point that regulations will allow more competition. The cable company power is oppressive. I don’t care how much better their service calls have improved. That’s subjective anyway and sometimes it’s great and other times…not so much!
 
By cutting the cable, I mean discontinuing the TV service but keeping the high speed internet service of the cable company. That is what I am planning on doing.
Now, there may very well be good competition coming with regards to internet service in the next few years as 5G wireless becomes available. At the residential end of things, it is my understanding it becomes more like a wide are WIFI as opposed to cellular service.
The point is that separating the content costs from the transmission cost should end up being a good thing for consumers. Competition on the content side should be make a big difference.
Now, with regards to TV, we pay one company, often a local monopoly, for both.
 
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