Star Wars Force Awakens newest trailer

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louisak said:
The Hidden Fortress is about two peasants who (for reasons which I don’t remember) have to escort a princess through dangerous territory back to her kingdom. So that gave Lucas the idea for one part of the plot of Star Wars - not the whole thing obviously.
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the two bumbling peasants are just like R2D2 and C3PO though in their relationship - or maybe earlier back like Laurel and Hardy? I don’t think there was a Darth Vader versus Luke and the resistance plotline though. (My impressions of this movie are coming back to me.)
 
I’m cautiously optimistic. Real sets, practical effects, costumes instead of crummy CGI… I really hope this movie will erase the stain of the prequels.
 
louisak said:
And those hopes are based on… what, exactly?
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The fact that I’m easy to please. 😃 I enjoyed the prequel trilogy, if that tells you anything. 😛

I have always been annoyed at trailers that show too much. If I can piece together the plot from a two minute trailer, why even go see the movie? 🤷

I can appreciate that you feel differently about it, though. Are there really no plot details on Wikipedia or anywhere else? I’ve been deliberately not looking for them. I saw a “rewind theater” article on IGN (but didn’t read it) where they go through the trailer frame by frame and analyze the content. In similar articles in the past, I know they are usually able to pull a lot more information from a trailer than I would have thought possible.
 
Joe_5859 said:
I can appreciate that you feel differently about it, though. Are there really no plot details on Wikipedia or anywhere else? I’ve been deliberately not looking for them. I saw a “rewind theater” article on IGN (but didn’t read it) where they go through the trailer frame by frame and analyze the content. In similar articles in the past, I know they are usually able to pull a lot more information from a trailer than I would have thought possible.
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They have been pretty cagey about plot details. Thankfully. I did see that there was a frame-by-frame analysis of the trailer on Gawker which I think was largely predicated on rumor and inference.

The thing that gives me hope the movie will be good is that Lawrence Kasdan worked on the script unlike the prequels which were horrid George Lucas scripts (I don’t share your enthusiasm for the prequels).

Matt
 
Matthew125 said:
They have been pretty cagey about plot details. Thankfully. I did see that there was a frame-by-frame analysis of the trailer on Gawker which I think was largely predicated on rumor and inference.

The thing that gives me hope the movie will be good is that Lawrence Kasdan worked on the script unlike the prequels which were horrid George Lucas scripts (I don’t share your enthusiasm for the prequels).

Matt
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Good point about the script writer I knew there was another reason. 🙂

I wouldn’t say I’m “enthusiastic” about the prequels. I know there’s a lot that I’d have liked to see done differently. But I still enjoyed them.
 
Mystrx said:
I’ll see it but I’m not pre ordering tickets. 👍
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I’ll watch it when it comes on one of the movie channels. I might even spring for Uverse On-Demand, probably about this time next year.
 
Mystrx said:
I noticed it as well. Its stupid looking I think.
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Maybe practical, though. It would protect your hands from an opponent’s “blade” or whatever it would be called.
 
Joe_5859 said:
The fact that I’m easy to please. 😃 I enjoyed the prequel trilogy, if that tells you anything. 😛

I have always been annoyed at trailers that show too much. If I can piece together the plot from a two minute trailer, why even go see the movie? 🤷

I can appreciate that you feel differently about it, though. Are there really no plot details on Wikipedia or anywhere else? I’ve been deliberately not looking for them. I saw a “rewind theater” article on IGN (but didn’t read it) where they go through the trailer frame by frame and analyze the content. In similar articles in the past, I know they are usually able to pull a lot more information from a trailer than I would have thought possible.
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I did some digging around, and amazingly enough it seems all that the world has to go on as far as plot is the trailer. How hard is it for a motion picture studio to keep a script under wraps? Hard, I should think in this digital age.
 
There’s a Darth Vader-like character seen in the trailer, but I’ve heard that Luke Skywalker doesn’t appear in it. Hmmm…could it be…?
 
tomarin said:
I did some digging around, and amazingly enough it seems all that the world has to go on as far as plot is the trailer. How hard is it for a motion picture studio to keep a script under wraps? Hard, I should think in this digital age.
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That is pretty amazing in this day and age. I think it’s kind of fun to speculate.
Terra_Rosarum said:
There’s a Darth Vader-like character seen in the trailer, but I’ve heard that Luke Skywalker doesn’t appear in it. Hmmm…could it be…?
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That’s what I was thinking but didn’t want to say it. 😛
 
Terra_Rosarum said:
There’s a Darth Vader-like character seen in the trailer, but I’ve heard that Luke Skywalker doesn’t appear in it. Hmmm…could it be…?
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Mark Hamill is in the film (though not in this trailer), playing Luke Skywalker. You can easily confirm this with a Google search. There are numerous articles in the entertainment magazines, discussing the fact that Hamill was persuaded to return to the series along with Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher.
 
A propos of the identity of the Darth Vader-like guy, one thing I’ve never quite understood about the Star Wars universe, which seems to be a Manichean universe with the two sides of the Force battling throughout eternity, is why is there a ‘good’ side to root for at all? In other words, if the universe itself doesn’t distinguish between black and white, yin and yang, then isn’t the distinction between one side being ‘good’ and the other ‘evil’ an arbitrary one? Couldn’t we just as well root for Darth Vader and company as for Luke, Han, Chewbacca, Princess Lea, etc.?

That is to say, if the universe in Star Wars doesn’t make a moral distinction between black and white, yin and yang, etc. Obviously it does make a distinction, but normally in Manichean dualism there is no such distinction, just two equally matched sides.
 
louisak said:
Mark Hamill is in the film (though not in this trailer), playing Luke Skywalker. You can easily confirm this with a Google search. There are numerous articles in the entertainment magazines, discussing the fact that Hamill was persuaded to return to the series along with Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher.
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I think he was implying the possibility that Luke has taken up the Darth Vader mantle from his father.
 
Joe_5859 said:
I think he was implying the possibility that Luke has taken up the Darth Vader mantle from his father.
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that would contradict return of the jedi’s ending where Luke said he would NEVER turn to the dark side.

Just bought my tickets - one for me and one for my dad (I reserved “dream loungers”

I’ll probably take 8 year old nephew during Christmas break…
 
jediliz said:
that would contradict return of the jedi’s ending where Luke said he would NEVER turn to the dark side.
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I don’t see how it contradicts it. It’s possible for a person to say that he will never do something, and then later do it anyway. In fact it happens all the time.

Granted it would defy all our expectations about what kind of person Luke is. But I would be prepared to accept it, if the movie shows us convincing reasons why it could happen. I wasn’t convinced by Anakin Skywalker’s turn to evil in the prequels. But that’s another topic… don’t want to derail this thread.
 
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