WOW … and civil rights…tell me how you feel…imagine blacks getting the same jobs as whites…how will we survive ??? Imagine an educated black man because he went to a well established, but white college…I tremble at the thought.
NO Argument with any of it,just want to have the freedom to choose,let freedom ring and let the church preach the word of God. I do not favor Gay marriage…so all the stats in the world do not matter,it is about freedom of choice.
If that is your reasoning and if I agreed with you…I be 100% on your side. If you are fearful that as a result of giving some other group freedom, takes away from others freedoms…well then your issue is well taken. Wish that was your thoughts before…save me a lot of typing.
Because having a black man elected twice as president is a sure sign that America is racist against blacks.
Definitely. This shouldn’t be a political issue. Why they are always making it to be so is what I don’t understand.
Unless you are a hermit living alone on an island everything in life is a political issue. Politics is how society is governed and affects the laws which we all are affected by. The opinion that religion should be kept out of politics is an atheist point of view and one that is foreign to the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Politicians aren’t people?
With the argument you put forth, you’re missing the fundamental difference between the examples you have given and the issue of marriage equality. You ask if it is morally wrong to kill, steal, and assault. The answer is - yes - of course it is wrong - since you are violating the rights of another. But with marriage equality, the fact that two gay people want to get married has no direct impact on you anyone else. By contrast, the rights of the gay couple are violated if they are not afforded the same benefits of marriage that others enjoy - filing joint tax returns, rights of inheritance, etc. No one is preventing you or anyone else from personally disapproving of marriage equality. But you need to realize that whether or not marriage equality is realized, there will always be gay people in society - they could be your neighbors, your co-workers, or relatives. They’re all God’s children.
I think you make many false assertions to bolster an argument that has no foundation in morality or logic.
The Divine plan is that man may be saved; however, this plan is one of love and love cannot be forced. We are created by God and so it is God in whom our purpose is found. Our purpose is to love God with all our heart, mind, body and soul. This is why we have been given an intellect and a will. The first so we may know because we cannot love what we do not know, and the second because when we know we must put our love into action and this requires suffering. You don’t suffer for those you don’t love. Yet as agents of free will we make the choice who or what we love and God does not force us to love Him. Rather He tells us what happens to our hearts and our souls when we do not love Him. He tells us what the consequences are of a being who is made to love but who does not love, Love itself; God. Such a being could only become a being that is anti-love; anti-Christ. A being that hides its face from Love as Caine tried to hide from God.
This has become more than about religious liberty. Catholics do everyone a grave disservice saying this is about religious liberty. No, this is about the Truth and about sin! Saying it’s about religious liberty is a weak foundation since you don’t distinguish between the True Religion and the false ones; no rather you put them on equal footings which is a contradiction to the Truth and to Charity.
Certainly it is about more than religious liberty. But it is inevitably about religious liberty and will become more so, even as truth suffers.
Perhaps there is another factor in play than just “God’s plan”, and perhaps that is free will?
You are exactly right. Over the last 40 years, dissidents inside and outside the Church planned the step by step destruction of the natural family and are trying to replace it with a lie. The media, gradually, slowly, turned its spotlight from the good, wholesome and decent and gave us the filth we have today. It took decades of conditioning but a lie repeated often enough can fool some. But the Church is not fooled. And there are faithful Catholics out there.I think you make many false assertions to bolster an argument that has no foundation in morality or logic.
I think these are assertions that no believing Christian can possibly maintain and still be Christian, IMHO.
I have lived long enough to see the damage to society of most, if not all of the things you assert are a benefit to society, and you’re wrong about that. These things have damaged and coarsened society. These things have destroyed lives.
No fault divorce has made marriage disposable, and of no consequence. Easy to fall into and out of, and making a wreck of the lives all around it.
Birth control has created a society of sexual intercourse with no consequences (a child), so the result is that the act that should be reserved for marriage is now a sport. The result is STDs out of control, and the degradation of men and women as they copulate in meaningless and transient relationships, if they even have relationships. It has reduced sexual intercourse into mutual pleasuring that for all intents and purpose is a solitary event and not a true union. It has also had the effect that prostitution (male and female) a socially acceptable act.
I’m surprised you omitted pornography as a “freedom of speech” issue. Destructive to society.
Abortion extension of the idea of birth control due to the failure of birth control (life is seemingly irrepressible), except that the sex act has already produced its result; a child. A human being. So now, this is simply the elimination of that child. The devalues life to the basest level - human life is now disposal, consequences of sexual activity that are designed for one real purpose, procreation now turned on its head to be recreation. Once murder of a single human being is not only tolerated, but celebrated in a society, then it’s only a matter of time before mass murders begin. It’s the logical conclusion.
Adultery? Fornication? You call these things good or minimize them? Seriously?
What then of the Ten Commandments?
What then of the things that Jesus Himself told us about how we should act?
What then of the instruction of the Apostles?
What then on the instruction of the Church through the Ages?
My understanding of these issues is simply this, support of evil and things intrinsically evil is in itself and evil act. And to be silent about these issues is to give consent to evil. But that’s just me, I guess. I have a different perspective on it than you apparently do.
I could go further, but I suspect that what I have to say would be falling on deaf ears, so to speak.
Wow. I knew about one of those cases, but that gives perspective on it.