Statement of Faith?

[Tom]

Ruth101:

1. We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The problem with this statement is that it is not true. There is no Scriptural reference which says “the ONLY infallible, authoritative Word of God”. Clearly Scripture gives infallible authority to the oral Traditions passed on and to His Church.

 

[MaggieOH]

MariaG:

By asking what priest, we are asking how can your “priest” be a priest. Clearly you are not Catholic so why are you talking about “your priest”.

If by your priest you mean Jesus, then I would say to you that Jesus did not say the things you are implying. While you certainly have *interpreted *Scripture that way, to say that Jesus “said” those things is a lie.

God Bless,
Maria

I think that you will find that Ruth101 has made a rather blasphemous statement by referring to the Bible as her priest.

MaggieOH

 

[MaggieOH]

I would not be prepared to sign such a statement of faith. I suggest finding the Catholic equivalent of that agency.

MaggieOH

 

[Ruth101]

MaggieOH:

I think that you will find that Ruth101 has made a rather blasphemous statement by referring to the Bible as her priest.MaggieOH

Hebrews 4:14-16 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our weaknesses; but was in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

I do not hold the Bible as my great high priest, but the Bible does make it clear that Jesus is that ONE. But that isn’t all, but there are many earthly priests, but they are not infallible. There is the difference. See my post in Mary and Grace; there you will read my history. And I am not “anti catholic”.

Thanks for listening.

 

[mtr01]

Ruth101:

And I am not “anti catholic”.

Thanks for listening.

I would think that voting in a poll that Catholics are idolators is certainly anti-Catholic.

 

[MaggieOH]

Ruth101:

Hebrews 4:14-16 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our weaknesses; but was in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

I do not hold the Bible as my great high priest, but the Bible does make it clear that Jesus is that ONE. But that isn’t all, but there are many earthly priests, but they are not infallible. There is the difference. See my post in Mary and Grace; there you will read my history. And I am not “anti catholic”.

Thanks for listening.

Ruth,

you do not make a good liar (in fact you never did). In various threads you referred to the Bible as “My priest”. That is blasphemous because you are holding up a book of ink over and above God, whilst also holding yourself up as being an infallible interpreter of the Scripture.

Look at your own statement. Here you are saying that Jesus is the High Priest (and Catholics do agree with the fact that Jesus is the High Priest before the throne of God), but what you then do is you make a claim about “my priest” that proves you go a lot further than just quoting from the Scripture. That is idolatrous worship of the Bible.

Catholics know that priests by themselves are not infallible. They are, after all just men, but they have received the laying on of hands through Apostolic Succession (check out the Book of Acts because Ananias laid hands on St. Paul and then the brethren did the same when it was time for Sts. Paul and Barnabas to go on mission).

The comments show that you do not have a clue as to the meaning of infallibility, yet another reason why I do not believe you.

As for the “I am not anti-Catholic remark” . Well, you did vote with Oudave on that poll, and you left yourself wide open by attacking the beliefs of Catholics in that way.

MaggieOH

 

[kmktexas]

This place does a lot of good in the area especially from a moral standpoint (ex. no abortion referrals, no birth control, abstinence-only education, post-pregnancy help and couseling) and it would be a shame for my wife not to volunteer because of this statement. If this was you, how would you approach this with the head of the volunteer program in a charitable way?

Your wife could probably just cross out and initial the words "the only " in #1 making it read “We believe the Bible to be the inspired, infallible, authoritative Word of God.”

As someone said, the wording in #4 seems to be contradictory to what people think that Catholics believe and since we don’t believe that works ALONE will gain us salvation, it isn’t that problematic.

However, please ask you wife to do some additional research. We have some evangelical crisis preganancy centers in our area. Some are fine. Others require the mothers-to-be to sign similar statements in order to receive services, require that mothers-to-be attend the centers own (Sola Scriptura) Bible studies and actively try to “save the poor Catholic girls”. Asking the volunteers to sign this statement may be a red flag warning of other issues.

If you don’t have any Catholic crisis pregnancy centers in your area (we don’t here, either) your wife might be more comfortable volunteering with the Gabriel project. Almost every diocese has one. There are Chapters in many parishes too.

Let us know what happens.

 

[EJM]

mtr01:

I’d say it’s important, because it clearly demonstrates an agenda.

Yes, I agree with you that it probably is based on an agenda. Sometimes I just leave the window open slightly for the benefit of doubt.

Take care