Statistics showing link between contraception and abortion, adultery, divorce, etc.?

[Rejoice]

I’ve been talking with my friend about Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular and I promised him I’d try to answer several of his objections. After some research a few of his questions remain unanswered to my satisfaction.

I’m posting each question individually. This is the third one:

3.) Are there credible statistics to support the claim that contraception has led to a rise in abortion, adultery, divorce, premarital sex, unwed mothers and poverty?

Any resource ideas would be great! I have googled and been to a lot of pro-life sites but can’t find anything showing a direct connection. I think it may be that you can’t separate one factor from all the others and so maybe I’m asking for too much…

Thanks,
Brett

 

[1ke]

Rejoice:

I’ve been talking with my friend about Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular and I promised him I’d try to answer several of his objections. After some research a few of his questions remain unanswered to my satisfaction.

I’m posting each question individually. This is the third one:

3.) Are there credible statistics to support the claim that contraception has led to a rise in abortion, adultery, divorce, premarital sex, unwed mothers and poverty?

Any resource ideas would be great! I have googled and been to a lot of pro-life sites but can’t find anything showing a direct connection. I think it may be that you can’t separate one factor from all the others and so maybe I’m asking for too much…

Thanks,
Brett

www.omsoul.com
www.all.com and go to their STOPP division & Ryan Report
www.hh76.com

 

[Working_girl]

Hi Brett,
I suggest going to the web-site: omsoul.com/

You can have a free cd sent called, “Contraception, Why Not.” It is a GREAT cd that has statistics that you are looking for.

 

[ReformedCatholic]

I’d have a hard time believing statistics on this matter. The misunderstanding being that because there may be a statistical “correlation” does not necessarily imply in any way “causality.” I don’t know how you’d legitimately measure this anyway except by a subjective survey “after the fact,” which would likely be biased in one way or another and would not likely be very reliable.

“There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.” - Mark Twain

 

[Aaron_I]

The right to privacy that allowed for Roe v Wade was invented to justify contraception in the 1965 case Griswold v. Connecticut.

Here’s a cool article by one of my teachers. Part V is the one most applicable to contraception, but the whole article is really interesting.

 

[solarwind23]

ReformedCatholic:

I’d have a hard time believing statistics on this matter. The misunderstanding being that because there may be a statistical “correlation” does not necessarily imply in any way “causality.” I don’t know how you’d legitimately measure this anyway except by a subjective survey “after the fact,” which would likely be biased in one way or another and would not likely be very reliable.

“There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.” - Mark Twain

Agreed. Throughout this time Westerns have also been getting fatter and fatter, maybe it’s the fat that’s causing all the adultery, divorce, and abortions?

It even kind of makes sense: fat people are less attractive so people are more likely to cheat, to divorce, and since fat people don’t want to get fatter and pregnancy leads to fat they have abortions.

Obviously this is bogus, but still as people have been getting fatter divorces and adultery have been increasing… hmmm!

 

[BioCatholic]

Aaron I.:

The right to privacy that allowed for Roe v Wade was invented to justify contraception in the 1965 case Griswold v. Connecticut.

Here’s a cool article by one of my teachers. Part V is the one most applicable to contraception, but the whole article is really interesting.

Sigh. Read the 9th Amendment. It basically says that just because a right is not listed in the Constitution, it doesnt exist for the people. the Founders knew they could not list every single right people should enjoy.

Griswold is based in several amendments, and is an excellent decision. there is absolutely, no valid, justifiable, logical, or legitimate reason the government can tell you that you cannot use contraception. period. not one. even though the Church says it is wrong, from a standpoint of law, there isnt any basis for making it illegal.

i dont hear you complaining about Loving vs Virginia, which established that marriage was a fundamental right, and was subject to “equal protection”.

 

[ReformedCatholic]

solarwind23:

Agreed. Throughout this time Westerns have also been getting fatter and fatter, maybe it’s the fat that’s causing all the adultery, divorce, and abortions?

It even kind of makes sense: fat people are less attractive so people are more likely to cheat, to divorce, and since fat people don’t want to get fatter and pregnancy leads to fat they have abortions.

Obviously this is bogus, but still as people have been getting fatter divorces and adultery have been increasing… hmmm!

LOL!! That’s hilarious! And soooo true!

 

[vz71]

Rejoice:

3.) Are there credible statistics to support the claim that contraception has led to a rise in abortion, adultery, divorce, premarital sex, unwed mothers and poverty?
Brett

I doubt you will find any truly credible statistics to support this.
Have you considered a different approach?
Rather then trying to link everything, focus on the natural consequences of removing the cuase from the effect.

Specificly, what happens when the consequence (pregnancy) is removed from the act?

:twocents:

Z

 

[ReformedCatholic]

vz71:

I doubt you will find any truly credible statistics to support this.
Have you considered a different approach?
Rather then trying to link everything, focus on the natural consequences of removing the cuase from the effect.

Specificly, what happens when the consequence (pregnancy) is removed from the act?

A different approach would most certainly be required, but I have seen where people try to sell so-called statistics to support their position when the statistics are bogus and they end up (either intentionally or unintentionally) spreading misinformation.

 

[wjp984]

of course there will be a corelatoon. People that are practicing Catholics to the degree that they won’t use contraception would also be practicing Catholics in the fact that divorce is not an option, abortion is absolutely abominable, and family life is important. People that use contraception can justify breaking the other rules as well. The statistics don’t show anything more than the obvious