Std vaccinations?

[psyche23]

I wonder if in the next few years when they come out with more vaccinations, that they will be able to be given past the age of 26. I think I heard somewhere that they are working on two other vaccinations now. I think the longer I can wait the better. I know that’s a risk, and honestly one I’m not sure I’m prepared to take but I still have no idea what to do. There are so many unknowns here. I started this thread on the morality/ethics of getting it, but now I’m finding lots of other things to think of… UGH! why can’t this be easier!!!

 

[timotheos]

Are there any ethical/moral problems with me getting the vaccine???

There are many scientific aspects to the question of HPV infection, relationship to cervical carcinogenesis, and vaccination. But in the situation you describe, I think the answer to your question is fairly simple - No Catholic moral or ethical problems of which I am aware.

-Tim

 

[hasikelee]

What facts form the basis of your conclusion here?

That’s common for vaccines. A vaccine is introduced. After a little while, we realize that a booster is sometimes needed. No problem, just give people the booster and it usually works. We (should) get tetanus boosters every 10 years and nobody blames the vaccine for being ineffective.

The vaccine only contains hallow “virus-like particles”, which are just some of the proteins that form the coat of the actual virus. Unlike the virus, there is no DNA (HPV being a dsDNA virus). No DNA means no infection. The chances of the proteins in the vaccine causing the problems you mention that the HPV causes is about the same as the moon falling out if its orbit tonight.

It is clear that we have a difference in opinion both on the overall efficacy and philosphy of vaccination and also the specific one pertaining to this thread.

I could continue to present information and even provide links or articles, but that would not be on topic. Also, there would be the issue of the typical train wreck as we stop discussion to argue over who is unbiased or authoritative.

 

[KathleenElsie]

Why the cut off age of 26? Is it magical or is it that they just don’t think there are any virgins over that age that will eventually become married?

 

[psyche23]

Why the cut off age of 26? Is it magical or is it that they just don’t think there are any virgins over that age that will eventually become married?

Pretty ridiculous I know… Actually my doctor said that after the age of 25, they consider me geriatric… !!!

 

[LilyM]

I wonder if in the next few years when they come out with more vaccinations, that they will be able to be given past the age of 26. I think I heard somewhere that they are working on two other vaccinations now. I think the longer I can wait the better. I know that’s a risk, and honestly one I’m not sure I’m prepared to take but I still have no idea what to do. There are so many unknowns here. I started this thread on the morality/ethics of getting it, but now I’m finding lots of other things to think of… UGH! why can’t this be easier!!!

I’m 34 - there already IS a vaccine called Cervarix that is suitable for the over 26-ers, which I’m currently getting as I already have HPV.

 

[psyche23]

WOW really!!! THANKS!!! You just made my decision INCREDIBLY easier!!!

 

[Dale_M]

I don’t believe Cervarix is approved yet for use in the United States, but it has been used in Australia and was approved for use in the EU last autumn. Financial websites (not the best source for medical news, but sometimes we have to take what we find) suggest that Cervarix will receive US approval this year, barring anything unforeseen.

 

[dwc]

As far as religious or ethical objections, in your case I don’t see any. As for risk/benefit analysis of the vaccine itself, I suggest looking to an objective medical website for actual risks and adverse reactions or talking further with your doctor.

 

[Exalt]

I just find it sad that this is even an issue. It’s pretty messed up when a religious institution, which claims to have a direct line to the source of all morality and ethics, discourages the use of a vaccine.

Sorta reminds me of the Jahova’s Witness child who decided to not have a blood transfusion to save his own life because of religious reasons. Not as bad, of course, but along the same lines.

 

[LilyM]

I don’t believe Cervarix is approved yet for use in the United States, but it has been used in Australia and was approved for use in the EU last autumn. Financial websites (not the best source for medical news, but sometimes we have to take what we find) suggest that Cervarix will receive US approval this year, barring anything unforeseen.

Oh dear, sorry if I gave anyone false hope … but hey, at least you know now that you don’t have to rush to get the Gardasil before you’re 26

 

[Newbie2]

We have discussed the alleged deaths from the vaccine before. Suffice it to say that she isn’t going to die from the vaccine.

Um…you can’t say that for sure. Unlikely, yes, but from Merck:

The following adverse experiences have been spontaneously reported during post-approval use of
GARDASIL. Because these experiences were reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is
not possible to reliably estimate their frequency or to establish a causal relationship to vaccine exposure.
Blood and lymphatic system disorders: Lymphadenopathy.
Nervous system disorders: Dizziness, Guillain-Barré syndrome, headache, syncope.
Gastrointestinal disorders: Nausea, vomiting.
Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders: Arthralgia, myalgia.
General disorders and administration site conditions: Asthenia, fatigue, malaise.
Immune system disorders: Hypersensitivity reactions including anaphylactic/anaphylactoid reactions,
bronchospasm, and urticaria.

People occasionally die from vaccine anaphylactic reactions. Rare, but it happens. One of the risks of ***any ***vaccine.

Gardasil has been on the market for a 1.5 years… if there were any safety issues they should have been reported by now.

Exactly. Should have been. So the question remains, are the benefits worth the risks?

 

[psyche23]

I just find it sad that this is even an issue. It’s pretty messed up when a religious institution, which claims to have a direct line to the source of all morality and ethics, discourages the use of a vaccine.

Sorta reminds me of the Jahova’s Witness child who decided to not have a blood transfusion to save his own life because of religious reasons. Not as bad, of course, but along the same lines.

If you haven’t gathered, there are no rules or ethical violations if I decide to get this. So it’s not an issue at all, at least not in that sense. I was just curious because as a youth minister, I didn’t want to seemingly approve of something which might have detrimental effects. It’s always good to get other’s opinions when in doubt.

 

[Exalt]

If you haven’t gathered, there are no rules or ethical violations if I decide to get this. So it’s not an issue at all, at least not in that sense. I was just curious because as a youth minister, I didn’t want to seemingly approve of something which might have detrimental effects. It’s always good to get other’s opinions when in doubt.

Ah, good.

I apologize for my hasty reaction.

 

[Crystal_H]

I don’t think there is anything morally wrong with the vaccine but I have seen the HORRIFIC “potential” side effects with a good friends daughter. A genious who now has so many seizures she can’t even walk straight.
The supposed percentage of women who have HPV are completely INFLATED. Where was the study done? What was the population?
I have a very difficult time believing that 60+ % of women by the time they are 50 wil have HPV. Maybe in the inner cities.
I was talking about this with my nurse collegues and we all had a hard time with those # so did most of the OBs I work with.
Crystal