Stealing or not.....?

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This person didn’t steal anything. He watched a movie that he intended to pay for. It is not his fault that the bill didn’t come. It is probably a good idea to wait a month or so to see if the charge appears.

This stuff happens all of the time. I went to a medical clinic in a drugstore last October, and the charge was supposed to be $75. I didn’t pay a dime because they accept insurance. They were supposed to bill Medicare, and then Medicare is set up to beam the remainder of the bill off to my secondary insurance. I can see by looking at my Medicare claims that they never billed Medicare. I asked about it the other day when picking up a prescription there, and the guy behind the counter just shrugged his shoulders and said he didn’t have any idea what to do about that!

I am getting to the point where I’m convinced that it is just not my responsibility to try to fix every billing problem that I notice.
Hmmm, a good example. If you had not checked your bill - and many people do not - and if I hadn’t either, (my bill is not sent to me, I have to actively look it up) then we would have been none the wiser as to whether the charge had been taken or not. 🤷
 
This person didn’t steal anything. He watched a movie that he intended to pay for. It is not his fault that the bill didn’t come. It is probably a good idea to wait a month or so to see if the charge appears.

This stuff happens all of the time. I went to a medical clinic in a drugstore last October, and the charge was supposed to be $75. I didn’t pay a dime because they accept insurance. They were supposed to bill Medicare, and then Medicare is set up to beam the remainder of the bill off to my secondary insurance. I can see by looking at my Medicare claims that they never billed Medicare. I asked about it the other day when picking up a prescription there, and the guy behind the counter just shrugged his shoulders and said he didn’t have any idea what to do about that!

I am getting to the point where I’m convinced that it is just not my responsibility to try to fix every billing problem that I notice.
You made the effort to fix it. After that it is indeed out of your hands.
 
Oh well, after all that - they ‘caught’ me! 😃

The fees were taken, 6 weeks later - so no need to email them.
 
People need to stop struggling with these things!
Go forth and glorify God, not sit and lament if the penny you found on the street required you to put in a bit more effort to find the owner :confused:

Go do real stuff and you won’t have brain time for this!
 
Some packages come with a free Movie to encourage to rent more - are you sure you didn’t miss this - probably was a marketing ploy - call and ask and if its was a mistake offer to pay - you didn’t steal anything - something went wrong or you were entitled by them to receive a movie - find out - why have you not called them if you are so worried about it??? - why are you hesitating to do this is more the question - I would of been on the phone right away asking what happened.
 
People need to stop struggling with these things!
Go forth and glorify God, not sit and lament if the penny you found on the street required you to put in a bit more effort to find the owner :confused:

Go do real stuff and you won’t have brain time for this!
That doesn’t really make any sense. 🤷

Doing ‘real stuff’, whatever that is, does not negate querying a particular circumstance that may or may not be a sin.

A priest, suggesting emailing them, however now there is no need to!
 
That doesn’t really make any sense. 🤷

Doing ‘real stuff’, whatever that is, does not negate querying a particular circumstance that may or may not be a sin.

A priest, suggesting emailing them, however now there is no need to!
It makes perfect sense. Half of the concerns of Catholics seem to be nonsensical situations like these.

This has a twofold issue:
  1. Anyone not a catholic that hears this is what being catholic is about will think being carholic is a stupid and horrible idea.
  2. Instead of focusing energy on anything useful… there is this. What is this?? Useless waste of energy.
This if being discussed philosophically and in general, okay.

But most are actually concerned 😦
 
It makes perfect sense. Half of the concerns of Catholics seem to be nonsensical situations like these.

This has a twofold issue:
  1. Anyone not a catholic that hears this is what being catholic is about will think being carholic is a stupid and horrible idea.
  2. Instead of focusing energy on anything useful… there is this. What is this?? Useless waste of energy.
This if being discussed philosophically and in general, okay.

But most are actually concerned 😦
Still makes no sense.

Anyone who’s not Catholic, would at least wonder as to why the question was asked. A decade or so back, for me, getting access to films, with no payment being taken, would have been a celebrated freebie - as it would have been the company’s fault, and I was a ‘practicing’ Catholic then.

The more one comes to the faith the more aware they are of ‘sin’, and sometimes it can be a grey area. If I had ventured upon this thread then (or as a non-Catholic) it would have made me ‘wonder’ if nothing else - but no doubt would have been water of a duck’s back and I would not have taken it under my notice.

Focusing on something useful, like what? Everything’s relative. 🤷

This takes up no time, at all, but if anyone has a legitimate worry about a sinful issue, it’s their free choice to ask.

All It takes is a few minutes out of their day. 🤷
 
Listen to your conscience. Recently I purchased some outdated Adobe software at a really cheap bargain and I realized that it was pirated. I kept it on my computer for a while, but I began to feel remorse and I uninstalled it and asked for my money back. Perhaps coincidentally, but my computer started to emit a loud hum from the power supply that I could not explain, but after I uninstalled the software and re-flashed the BIOS, the hum that was driving me nuts mysteriously disappeared.
 
Still makes no sense.

Anyone who’s not Catholic, would at least wonder as to why the question was asked. A decade or so back, for me, getting access to films, with no payment being taken, would have been a celebrated freebie - as it would have been the company’s fault, and I was a ‘practicing’ Catholic then.

The more one comes to the faith the more aware they are of ‘sin’, and sometimes it can be a grey area. If I had ventured upon this thread then (or as a non-Catholic) it would have made me ‘wonder’ if nothing else - but no doubt would have been water of a duck’s back and I would not have taken it under my notice.

Focusing on something useful, like what? Everything’s relative. 🤷

This takes up no time, at all, but if anyone has a legitimate worry about a sinful issue, it’s their free choice to ask.

All It takes is a few minutes out of their day. 🤷
Not knowing what is actual church teaching vs the whims of those I deem “out there” was a great deterrent to my being a practicing anything.

I may meet and know different people than you, but most people I know when they erroneously think posts or convos like this are related to actually being a christian then assume the entire religion is false.

If I werent as curious a person as I am and if protestantism didnt make ao little secular historical sense I would not have been catholic. But it took a good bit to get to what is catholic vs what is insane whims or random people.

Most people I know who are some kind of lapse think that being a practicing christian involves needing to think like these posts. That is the stumbling block for them. Literally the number one thing I hear against going to church is “isnt everything a sin” and they list things like these posts. Because these are the rantings of christians they hear.

Not only do they hear them byt through natural law, common sense, and no serious mental issues they know in their hearts this level of guilt is not of God. Therefore they assume the religion to be of man and not of God.

I almost came soooo close to quitting my research on the CC with some of the first stuff I cane across between some posts like this and that fake catechism site. All the kinds of things in line with the mentality of this thread.

I know plenty who would think likewise and many more who’d have given up.

Luckily I am particularly curious.
 
Not knowing what is actual church teaching vs the whims of those I deem “out there” was a great deterrent to my being a practicing anything.

I may meet and know different people than you, but most people I know when they erroneously think posts or convos like this are related to actually being a christian then assume the entire religion is false.

If I werent as curious a person as I am and if protestantism didnt make ao little secular historical sense I would not have been catholic. But it took a good bit to get to what is catholic vs what is insane whims or random people.

Most people I know who are some kind of lapse think that being a practicing christian involves needing to think like these posts. That is the stumbling block for them. Literally the number one thing I hear against going to church is “isnt everything a sin” and they list things like these posts. Because these are the rantings of christians they hear.

Not only do they hear them byt through natural law, common sense, and no serious mental issues they know in their hearts this level of guilt is not of God. Therefore they assume the religion to be of man and not of God.

I almost came soooo close to quitting my research on the CC with some of the first stuff I cane across between some posts like this and that fake catechism site. All the kinds of things in line with the mentality of this thread.

I know plenty who would think likewise and many more who’d have given up.

Luckily I am particularly curious.
The query was NOT an ‘insane whim’ that is your perception, it was to ask if what had occurred was a sin, nothing more or less. A decade ago, as a practicing Catholic/Christian, it would not have even have been on my radar as a sin.

As another poster pointed out it is ‘conscience’ pricking, as it was in my case - but no way would my conscience have been pricked, years ago, I’d have thought I’d got ‘lucky’ through faulty software.

The post relates mostly to practicing the Catholic faith through more regular confession, i.e. the more you attend the more you are aware of sin and/or your conscience is pricked more often.

What exactly do Popes/Bishops/Priests/Saints/and some laypeople confess to, every week at confession- needless to say, not anything to do with this particular query - but most likely what these lapsed ‘Christians’ would also regard as ‘everything’ is a sin. 🤷

Falls under the category of ‘Tough’. 😉
 
The query was NOT an ‘insane whim’ that is your perception, it was to ask if what had occurred was a sin, nothing more or less. A decade ago, as a practicing Catholic/Christian, it would not have even have been on my radar as a sin.

As another poster pointed out it is ‘conscience’ pricking, as it was in my case - but no way would my conscience have been pricked, years ago, I’d have thought I’d got ‘lucky’ through faulty software.

The post relates mostly to practicing the Catholic faith through more regular confession, i.e. the more you attend the more you are aware of sin and/or your conscience is pricked more often.

What exactly do Popes/Bishops/Priests/Saints/and some laypeople confess to, every week at confession- needless to say, not anything to do with this particular query - but most likely what these lapsed ‘Christians’ would also regard as ‘everything’ is a sin. 🤷

Falls under the category of ‘Tough’. 😉
Yet even priests and such wanr the pitfalls of scruples.

The line is less clear, as there are in some cases rather debated things here like the intricacies of speed limits vs sin etc.

And I know how confession works, but truly if this is all you have to confess then you are obviously a saint.

But also, for those whose lives allow them to lament such a thing. What good are they doing? Who have they helped? If you can feel so guilty why not drop all this movie watching and volunteer somewhere. Etc.
 
Yet even priests and such wanr the pitfalls of scruples.

The line is less clear, as there are in some cases rather debated things here like the intricacies of speed limits vs sin etc.

And I know how confession works, but truly if this is all you have to confess then you are obviously a saint.

But also, for those whose lives allow them to lament such a thing. What good are they doing? Who have they helped? If you can feel so guilty why not drop all this movie watching and volunteer somewhere. Etc.
Completely misses the point of the OP, and the query asked.

Who does anyone help, if/when they confess a sin, aside from their own soul and to making reparation with God.

In the case of stealing, potentially, also the person/organisation that the theft affected, if the item is then paid for or returned. 🤷
 
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