Stem cells from an egg not fertilized

[Jadesfire20]

Prometheum_x:

Thanks for the clarification. I was pleased to discover that in my ignorance I managed to be correct. . . I didn’t say it was genetically identical, only that it had the same chromosomes (in terms of number and the general function of each chromosome.) At least I think that’s correct. . . don’t specific chromosomes have specific functions, such that many disorders can be traced to a flaw in a particular chromosome, i.e., down syndrome?

Not really…there isn’t a specific function delegated to each chromosome. Genes are pretty much randomly scattered across the genome. For example, some genes involved in the production of sperm are found on the X chromosome, not the Y!

Down’s syndrome is caused by three copies of chromosome 21 or sometimes by a translocation whereby a portion of chromosome 21 breaks off and becomes attached to another chromosome so that the person has 3x the dosage of that region of 21. The actual gene(s) involved in the Down’s syndrome characteristics…mental retardation, facial abnormalities, etc. are not yet known. The brain is very sensitive to dosage so there are many diseases that have mental retardation as a symptom but have nothing to do with chromosome 21. For example Angelman’s syndrome patients have severe mental retardation, in addition to seizures and laughing out of context, but the genes involved in this disease are on chromosome 15

 

[Prometheum_x]

Jadesfire20:

Not really…there isn’t a specific function delegated to each chromosome. Genes are pretty much randomly scattered across the genome. For example, some genes involved in the production of sperm are found on the X chromosome, not the Y!

Down’s syndrome is caused by three copies of chromosome 21 or sometimes by a translocation whereby a portion of chromosome 21 breaks off and becomes attached to another chromosome so that the person has 3x the dosage of that region of 21. The actual gene(s) involved in the Down’s syndrome characteristics…mental retardation, facial abnormalities, etc. are not yet known. The brain is very sensitive to dosage so there are many diseases that have mental retardation as a symptom but have nothing to do with chromosome 21. For example Angelman’s syndrome patients have severe mental retardation, in addition to seizures and laughing out of context, but the genes involved in this disease are on chromosome 15

So, we can’t link a particular genetic trait such as hair color (that may be a bad example) to any particular chromosome or combination of chromosomes?

 

[renee1258]

Your arm nor your kidney is an individual organism, these things that are being farmed would be considered an human organism.

 

[Exporter]

Promethium wrote,". don’t specific chromosomes have specific functions, such that many disorders can be traced to a flaw in a particular chromosome, i.e., down syndrome?"

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Uh, ahh, No. If you replaced the word “chromosomes” with the word “GENES” and you have a correct sentance.

Genes are responsible for traits, such as eye color, baldness or diabetes melitas. There are many, many genes on each chromosome. We humans have only 46 chromosomes per cell of the somatic tissue. Sperm amd ova have 23 chromosomes each. It is wrong to say that a chromosome is responsible for a trait.

The statement by Promethium is false.

 

[Prometheum_x]

Exporter:

Promethium wrote,". don’t specific chromosomes have specific functions, such that many disorders can be traced to a flaw in a particular chromosome, i.e., down syndrome?"

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Uh, ahh, No. If you replaced the word “chromosomes” with the word “GENES” and you have a correct sentance.

Genes are responsible for traits, such as eye color, baldness or diabetes melitas. There are many, many genes on each chromosome. We humans have only 46 chromosomes per cell of the somatic tissue. Sperm amd ova have 23 chromosomes each. It is wrong to say that a chromosome is responsible for a trait.

The statement by Promethium is false.

Of course it is the genes which are responsible for those traits, but the genes are found in the chromosomes, so indirectly, chromosomes are responsible for them too. To further clarify, my question is whether the specific genes which control certain traits are generally found on a specific chromosome or whether they occur in any one of the 23 chromosomes at “random”.

 

[Prometheum_x]

renee1258:

Your arm nor your kidney is an individual organism, these things that are being farmed would be considered an human organism.

I would tend to agree, but can you tell me why they are not individual organisms once they are detached from the rest of my body?

What is the difference between a skin cell culture and an unfertilized egg cell which in which mitosis is induced? Mitosis is ocurring in both.

 

[cazayoux]

KCT:

My understanding is that God creates a soul when the right genetic materials come toghether (whether through in vitro or the fun, old fashioned way!) If the right materials aren’t there, there can be no soul. I don’t see how all the right genetic materials can be there w/ no sperm. Have they totally removed the role of the man??? —KCT

My thought has always been that the soul exists with or without a body … or at least before it … I would think your soul predates your body… going to heaven is going home, right?!

michel

 

[Elizabeth_B]

cazayoux:

My thought has always been that the soul exists with or without a body … or at least before it … I would think your soul predates your body… going to heaven is going home, right?!

michel

This is not correct.

The Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God—it is not “produced” by the parents—and also that it is immortal: it does not perish when it separates from the body at death, and it will be reunited with the body at the final Resurrection CCC 366

HEAVEN: Eternal life with God; communion of life and love with the Trinity and all the blessed. Heaven is the state of supreme and definitive happiness, the goal of the deepest longings of humanity (Glossary of CCC

As much as we like to think our babies were in heaven before their conception, they simply did not exist.