Maybe they get their wounds in the hand b/c the wounds of Jesus were in His wrists. Just as many saints refused to be crucified in the exact manner of Jesus. They felt unworthy to die as Jesus did. Like how St. Peter wanted to be crucified upside down b/c he didn’t want it to look like his death was a duplicate of the death of Jesus. Maybe God gives the stigmata in the hand to allow the person share in the suffering of Jesus but they are way too humble to have to exact wounds. Those wounds are for Jesus alone.I voted i believe it is true and real the stigmata.
Although I find it strange that the wounds always seems to be in the hands and not in the wrist. We now know that jesus wasnt hung by his hands so why mysticaly get sores on your hands in image of our images rather than in image of christ.
That again would be St Rita - her wound smelled foul by all accounts. Obviously a real wound is susceptible to infections which produce nasty odors.Stigmata is a very amazing thing. They say that most people with Stigmata had the scent of roses around them. Although I forget what woman had the stigmata but from what i do remember this woman had a bad odor with her stigmata. I wonder why her wounds didnt smell like roses.
Yes she had a real wound but from what i seen so did Padre Pio. Although I hear his wounds did not have a bad odor. If i remember right I believe his had a smell of either incense or roses or was it incense and roses…That again would be St Rita - her wound smelled foul by all accounts. Obviously a real wound is susceptible to infections which produce nasty odors.
And apparently with St Francis you could see lumps that resembled nails in shape coming out of his stigmata wounds on the hands and feet - just goes to show that not everyone who has stigmata experiences or manifests them the same.Yes she had a real wound but from what i seen so did Padre Pio. Although I hear his wounds did not have a bad odor. If i remember right I believe his had a smell of either incense or roses or was it incense and roses…
Although I thought his smelled like roses to. I got to read back up on that I believe there is someone else who had the smell of roses as well. roses always seem to play a role in miracles. I wonder how the roses relate. During deaths of very holy people they sometimes smell roses, stigmata, our lady of guadalupe so on and so on. I dont think the fact that St. Rita didnt smell like roses discredits her although I think these diffrences in each Stigmata is something to think about. Well it is something I have thought about from time to time. There is no reason for me to ask why there is a diffrence but why not.And apparently with St Francis you could see lumps that resembled nails in shape coming out of his stigmata wounds on the hands and feet - just goes to show that not everyone who has stigmata experiences or manifests them the same.
What you say is not correct. Nails in the hands (near the base of the thumb) can support the weight of a person of about 180 pounds without the feet being nailed/supported. With the feet also being nailed and supported the weight that can be supported is substantially greater than that. Early experiments which showed the hands could not support the weight of a person were proved false.I voted i believe it is true and real the stigmata.
Although I find it strange that the wounds always seems to be in the hands and not in the wrist. We now know that jesus wasnt hung by his hands so why mysticaly get sores on your hands in image of our images rather than in image of christ.
There’s not really any hierarchy of ‘importance’ in heaven - after all, they’re all in God’s presence and enjoying the Beatific Vision aren’t they? Except for Our Lady, of course, but that’s because of her absolutely unique position as the Theotokos and the unique graces bestowed upon her by God.Is someone who experiences stigmata considered more important in the Church than someone who doesn’t - especially when it comes to relating to saints?
I did not say in heaven.There’s not really any hierarchy of ‘importance’ in heaven - after all, they’re all in God’s presence and enjoying the Beatific Vision aren’t they? Except for Our Lady, of course, but that’s because of her absolutely unique position as the Theotokos and the unique graces bestowed upon her by God.
There is such a phenomena as invisible stigmata - with invisible stigmata, sufferings of the Passion, or some part of the Passion, are actually felt physically, but there is no visible wounding.All who are baptised bear the wounds of Christ on the soul.
My goodness, who were these people? No canonized Saint is considered more (or less) important & I, personally would stay away from people who professed that much ignorance about their faith.I did not say in heaven.
I have seen people say this or that individual’s words were more important because they had the stigmata.
No, especially since the Church generally is quite leery of those experiencing supernatural phenomena. Padre Pio was persona non grata with the Vatican for decades.Is someone who experiences stigmata considered more important in the Church than someone who doesn’t - especially when it comes to relating to saints?
What a beautiful story. Thank you.The Church has acknowledged as true - only a choice few, to my knowledge. St. Francis of Assisi and St. Padre Pio being the two most famous.
There was also Brother Gino outside of Rome (don’t know if he’s still living). When waiting outside the building we would see him, my mother smelled something - and was wondering who would be selling perfume in that area. It was afterwards that we guessed it might - REPEAT MIGHT - have come from him - but I don’t know the Church’s stand on Brother Gino.
I will say I had the opportunity to attend a lecture in the U.S. about Padre Pio. Afterwards, all were invited to come and venerate a framed glove of Padre Pio’s. The room was tightly packed with people going to venerate. After kissing it, I remarked to my mother about the beautiful fragrance. She looked and said she hadn’t smelled anything. Amazed, I began to ask others - remember, tightly packed - we couldn’t move it was so crowded, so I couldn’t understand how people right next to me didn’t smell it, too. No one - no one had smelled it. One woman looked at me and just smiled realizing the grace that might have just been granted - for whatever the reason - as I continued in shock begging others.
Yes, most assuredly I believe the Stigmata exists in a very saintly few - we mustn’t jump lightly at every claim - just as Holy Mother the Church remains silent and reserves judgement on each case before making a declaration. But it exists.
Actually, Padre Pio was persecuted by Archbishop Pasquale Gagliardi, a man whose archdiocese was riddled by gay priests & pederasts…a man who decided that the Sacrament of Confirmation wasn’t “neccesary”, a man whose very decadence denounced everything that Padre Pio represented. This man, I believe, was offended by the very existence of the Saint…as evil is often offended by good. Each time this man ran to the Vatican with one of his accusations about Padre Pio, the 2 Popes involved listened, investigated &, in the end, found for Padre Pio.No, especially since the Church generally is quite leery of those experiencing supernatural phenomena. Padre Pio was persona non grata with the Vatican for decades.