Stop all this talk talk talking in the OF says Congregation for Divine Worship

[GemmaRose]

Nordar, I apologize - here I go again, saying I am sorry because I didn’t use the correct wording. I must take a class in semantics if I want to remain on this site long.

I did not mean to critize you - just adding my :twocents: .

Anyway, my church conducts tours several times a day and, on Sunday. My difficulty with the tours is not so much that they make noise but the fact that they generally just walk by the Blessed Sacrament with no sign of reverence.

On Friday we have an Adoration that begins with the Mass and goes until 3:40 p.m. This past Friday a tour was beginning as I was leaving after the Private Adoration period.

I asked the tour guide (there are usually several tours at the same time) if he could remind people to bow or genuflect while passing the Blessed Sacrament on view at the altar.

I understand that I should not have done that but I have watched people just walking back and forth in front of the Blessed Sacrament so I “cracked.” One man in the group said “we are here for the tour, not the devotion.”

I quickly turned on my heels and left - but I did feel as though I should head to another church and right to the confessional because I felt murder in my heart.

Our Rector would never make an announcement about style of dress (many tourists in shorts, etc.); nor anything else that may hurt the feelings of the visitors. And a notice in the bulletin would serve no purpose because many of these people are here only for one Mass and they act as though they are at a “tourist site” instead at Mass.

I am going to speak with him this week though and ask why they must conduct tours on Fridays during the Adoration.

Goodness! That is distracting.

It reminds me of when I was in Assisi. There are throngs of pilgrims crawling over the entire church, except the small side chapel where the Blessed Sacrament is kept.

Our group was sitting together waiting for the time when the bus would be returning and I left for a while to pray before the Tabernacle (and to get a little quiet) and the only other person there came and sat next to me and then tried to get his hand under my skirt!

 

[Nordar]

Goodness! That is distracting.

It reminds me of when I was in Assisi. There are throngs of pilgrims crawling over the entire church, except the small side chapel where the Blessed Sacrament is kept.

Our group was sitting together waiting for the time when the bus would be returning and I left for a while to pray before the Tabernacle (and to get a little quiet) and the only other person there came and sat next to me and then tried to get his hand under my skirt!

Wow

 

[BSHoop96]

Nordar, I apologize - here I go again, saying I am sorry because I didn’t use the correct wording. I must take a class in semantics if I want to remain on this site long.

I did not mean to critize you - just adding my :twocents: .

Anyway, my church conducts tours several times a day and, on Sunday. My difficulty with the tours is not so much that they make noise but the fact that they generally just walk by the Blessed Sacrament with no sign of reverence.

On Friday we have an Adoration that begins with the Mass and goes until 3:40 p.m. This past Friday a tour was beginning as I was leaving after the Private Adoration period.

I asked the tour guide (there are usually several tours at the same time) if he could remind people to bow or genuflect while passing the Blessed Sacrament on view at the altar.

I understand that I should not have done that but I have watched people just walking back and forth in front of the Blessed Sacrament so I “cracked.” One man in the group said “we are here for the tour, not the devotion.”

I quickly turned on my heels and left - but I did feel as though I should head to another church and right to the confessional because I felt murder in my heart.

Our Rector would never make an announcement about style of dress (many tourists in shorts, etc.); nor anything else that may hurt the feelings of the visitors. And a notice in the bulletin would serve no purpose because many of these people are here only for one Mass and they act as though they are at a “tourist site” instead at Mass.

I am going to speak with him this week though and ask why they must conduct tours on Fridays during the Adoration.

I have been where tours are conducted but a sign (stand alone sign) will be put up saying something about Mass going on or whatever. Maybe a sign could be placed outside doors of Adoration Chapel saying what it is and please do not walk in front of tabernacle or whatever. Coming in and sitting quietly may be okay but walking around viewing I don’t think is.

 

[mullenpm]

My church is an historic church recently restored. The tours are not going on during Mass, but after Mass has ended. Before Mass people are strolling all over until the ropes are closed to block the entrance to the main altar so that no one can enter during Mass. I know that I can ignore the tourists while I am preparing for Mass but when they cross in front of the Blessed Sacrament as though it were not there, it gets to me.

The tours are led by guides. We do not have an Adoration Chapel. The Blessed Sacrament is where it should be – front and center in the main church.

During the Holy Hour (12:30 p.m. to 3:40 p.m.) the Monstrance is naturally on the front altar. I am going to try to have Father agree to not having tours during Holy Hour on Friday, but I don’t anticipate much success.

But this is all off thread - sorry.

 

[EasterJoy]

“The active participation of the faithful has been encouraged [in the OF] However, this must not mean that Mass is to be entirely dialogue-oriented. Mass must have moments of silence, of inwardness and personal prayer. Where there is **ceaseless **talking” [boy, is that the OF in a nutshell!], “man cannot be deeply penetrated by mystery. We are not to talk uninterruptedly before God, but to also let Him speak”.

Check out this article: thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/

I checked out the article. The points made in favor of “course corrections” are well-taken. Nevertheless, I found it kind of interesting that you left out the start of the quote you cited:
“The use of the vernacular has let many people understand the mystery of the Eucharist more deeply and has procured a more intense relationship with the texts of Scripture…”

Each form of the Mass has its own points, but I think if someone wrote that “a less intense relationship with the texts of Scripture” was “the EF in a nutshell”, there would be people on this forum rightly tempted to come un-glued, would there not?

The truth is that silence is built into the OF, even if it is not always observed as it should be.