Story of Noah: Who believes it to be real?

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I’m looking at the continents and clearly see they are moving away from each other, you are now saying that this is not the case. If this is so, then they are shifting back and forth, this makes putting a time line based upon them not possible unless you have a system that takes this into account, of which at present, we have none.

http://www.world-atlas.us/world-map.gif

I’ve read somewhere about how the planet actually flexes, going into an egg shape and back to a sphere as well, this throws more wrenches into the works. Did the planet expand and contract as well? You would think it does, we know it’s accumulating debree from space, so it does have a larger mass then what it originally started out with, but that’s a side element, yet if you think about it, logically it must be expanding, as pressure from the mantle presses down, it forces the superheated magma to rise to the surface through the path of least resistance, this in turn solidifies as a more porus substance helping to form islands and mountain ranges.

Now, taking the above into context, we have all of this water causing more pressure pushing the mantle downwards, this is a sudden event geologically, this causes the above system to come into place in short order creating rapid expansion and in turn, a place for the waters to settle, ie. the modern oceans as we know them now.
Did you ever see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kL7qDeI05U
An Incredible new theory of a growing earth.
 
buffalo, that is utterly amazing, it really shows how flawed current science is in regards to the techtonic plates, it’s simply too logical to ignore. Thank you for posting it. 👍 😉

Now, I’m thinking of the future, where we populate mars or other smaller planets, that it’s reduced gravity may become key to longevity, that and other planets which are much larger then earth even though the gravity is increased significantly, we may indeed find life exists on them regardless of our pre-conceived notion that only earth size planets can support life as we know it…
 
buffalo, that is utterly amazing, it really shows how flawed current science is in regards to the techtonic plates, it’s simply too logical to ignore. Thank you for posting it. 👍 😉

Now, I’m thinking of the future, where we populate mars or other smaller planets, that it’s reduced gravity may become key to longevity, that and other planets which are much larger then earth even though the gravity is increased significantly, we may indeed find life exists on them regardless of our pre-conceived notion that only earth size planets can support life as we know it…
There was a second gunman in Dealey Plaza, named Noah. His Ark landed in Area 51 in the Nevada Desert, spewing forth alien animals saved from the global flood of Venus.
 
Skepticism is good. My point was that the biblical literalists – of which Catholic Answers has its share in the form of converts from Fundamentalist Protestantism – exhibit gross ignorance of geology when they argue for a global flood and an Earth that is only 6,000 years old.

Petrus
I agree with you there—the evidence we do have, from many different quarters, certainly indicates the Earth is much older than 6,000 years old. How much older gets fuzzier, but it’s a big, big number. I don’t see faith conflicting in this case because the 6,000 year number is the result of some assumptions grafted onto Scripture. I’m certainly unaware of any Bible translation which says, “In the beginning, 6503 years ago…”

It’s still pretty cool that the Big Bang looks a lot like Genesis, though. 👍
 
Give me a break.
I’ll give you a break if you’ll give the rest of us a break from posting your non-sensical theories about a global “conspiracy” of geologists to hide the “truth” of an expanding earth!
 
I presented something that was supposed to just be a theory, clearly it has some merit based upon the video buffalo has shown. I have other theories the likes of which is going to revolutionize how we travel, should I also keep them to myself because it doesn’t fit in with standards taught in school?
 
There was a second gunman in Dealey Plaza, named Noah. His Ark landed in Area 51 in the Nevada Desert, spewing forth alien animals saved from the global flood of Venus.
PHILIPP: Uhm! Hi Petrus. What planet are you from? Based on NASA studies using billions of our tax payers monies it was Mars that had a huge flood and lost all its water, not Venus.

Isn’t it ironic though!!! Science and academia says that the planet Mars had a watery flood but academia will not allow discussion about the global flood Moses mentioned that happened here on earth. When and how do they think all the sedimentary deposits now rocks, clay, sand and gravel} came from? I would think it would be lots of fun for scientists to study all the theories. 🤷
Isn’t censorism wonderful!!! :rolleyes:
 
I would think it would be lots of fun for scientists to study all the theories. 🤷
Isn’t censorism wonderful!!! :rolleyes:
Do you mean “censorship”? No one is censoring geology; geologists discuss floods and erosion all the time. There is simply no evidence for a flood having covered the entire globe, for the reasons we’ve already discussed on this forum. If there ever had been a global flood, there would be conferences galore dedicated specifically to discussing it!

Petrus
 
Do you mean “censorship”? No one is censoring geology; geologists discuss floods and erosion all the time. There is simply no evidence for a flood having covered the entire globe, for the reasons we’ve already discussed on this forum. If there ever had been a global flood, there would be conferences galore dedicated specifically to discussing it!

Petrus
Assertion after assertion after assertion, assumption after assumption after assumption. Read the post regarding how the dinosaur and human footprints were formed and preserved in Texas; that’s science in action.

What you call science is reallyl “evolutionism” and evolutionists practice censorism or censorship if you prefer.😛
 
I presented something that was supposed to just be a theory, clearly it has some merit based upon the video buffalo has shown.
That video lends no credence to that “theory”. It is a conspiracy theory, not a scientific theory. No proposed mechanism and a false statement about subduction.

Peace

Tim
 
Isn’t it ironic though!!! Science and academia says that the planet Mars had a watery flood but academia will not allow discussion about the global flood Moses mentioned that happened here on earth.
There is evidence of a large flood on Mars, but there is no evidence of a global flood on Earth.
When and how do they think all the sedimentary deposits [now rocks, clay, sand and gravel} came from?
The source of sediments is actually a very easy question to answer and it is not from a global flood.

Does your flood geolgy include the sedimentary deposits that are made up of carbonates? How about evaporites? I’m sincerely interested in your geological model that can account for those types of sedimentary rocks using a flood as the depositional environment.

Peace

Tim
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Assertion after assertion after assertion, assumption after assumption after assumption. Read the post regarding how the dinosaur and human footprints were formed and preserved in Texas; that’s science in action.
No, that’s science fiction. Those are dinosaur tracks and only dinosaur tracks.
What you call science is reallyl “evolutionism” and evolutionists practice censorism or censorship if you prefer.😛
Well, evolution is science. What you are practicing is anything but.

Peace

Tim
 
There is evidence of a large flood on Mars, but there is no evidence of a global flood on Earth.The source of sediments is actually a very easy question to answer and it is not from a global flood.

Does your flood geolgy include the sedimentary deposits that are made up of carbonates? How about evaporites? I’m sincerely interested in your geological model that can account for those types of sedimentary rocks using a flood as the depositional environment.

Peace

Tim
The sedimentary deposits [originally mud of course] in which the dinosaur and human footprint impressions exist are composed of calcium and magnesium carbonates. To say there is no evidence for a world wide flood is a completely uninformed "assumption. In fact the carbonate sediments are world wide; in Texas they are called “Austin Chalk.” There is even a modern day volcano in Africa that spewed out such limestone material a few decades ago. I have the actual paper somewhere in my files from 1984.

Evaporites*:
Similar bands in some huge deposits containing calcium carbonate and calcium sulphate in Texas are also used to argue the case for long ages.17 One explanation says the deposits were formed when the sun evaporated seawater — hence the term ‘evaporite deposits’. Naturally, to make such large deposits in this way would take a long time. However, the high chemical purity of the deposits shows they were not exposed to a dry, dusty climate for thousands of years. Rather, it is more likely that they formed rapidly from the interaction between hot and cold seawater during undersea volcanic activity — a hydrothermal deposit.18 Reference:
answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/geology.asp

Again the method of preserving fossil footprints requires rapid burial [like twice daily tides] which supports the above explanation for evaporites. All the clams along the river are “closed” indicating that they were involved in a rapid flowing watery environment such as the hydraulic engineer explained in my previous post. If they had died naturally their shells would have been open. 🙂 Oh Yes, in 2004 an excavation found a 4 inch long fossilized worm imbedded in the limestone indicating rapid burial. It’s nick name is “mighty worm” and can be found in the local museum in the Cretaceous limestone rock in which it was discovered. 🙂
 
That video lends no credence to that “theory”. It is a conspiracy theory, not a scientific theory. No proposed mechanism and a false statement about subduction.

Peace

Tim
It’s vastly too clear, even a child can understand what’s shown there with ease, why is it so hard for you to see? This is simple, basic, absolutely absurd how the logic is presented on it being so clear, those lines and patterns are not random at all, the pieces fit together too perfectly to simply toss it out the window just because it conflicts with your current understanding.

I’m learning more and more here about how the so called “experts” are holding us back from advancing our understanding of God’s creation. I’ve lost all respect for everything I’ve ever been taught about science, for it is a flawed understanding, it’s to the point of herasy at this stage. No wonder I’ve had so much opposition when presenting my own theories to the community, they don’t want to hear the truth, they want to have their lack of understanding reinforced by other’s lack of understanding.

The only thing this is doing is making me take a much harder look at everything I’ve been taught, I’m re-evaluating it all at this stage. Science has failed, it has in the past, it is now, it will in the future, it’s a toy at best, and in most cases, a complete waste of time especially when it clearly goes against the word of God. It would be really cool to form a group or system that can seriously go through all of what we are taught and take a second take on it all, for we are being lied to on a massive scale.
 
The sedimentary deposits [originally mud of course] in which the dinosaur and human footprint impressions exist are composed of calcium and magnesium carbonates. To say there is no evidence for a world wide flood is a completely uninformed "assumption. In fact the carbonate sediments are world wide; in Texas they are called “Austin Chalk.” There is even a modern day volcano in Africa that spewed out such limestone material a few decades ago. I have the actual paper somewhere in my files from 1984.
The Austin Chalk is only one of many different carbonate formations in Texas. There are some older and some younger. There are also sandstone and shale formations both above and below the Austin Chalk.

Speaking of chalks, one of the most famous chalks is found in the cliffs of Dover, England. Is it your contention that that formation is also the result of volcanic activity?

There is NO evidence of a global flood. That is not an assumption. That is as true as the fact that the sunrise is in the east and the sunset is in the west.
Evaporites*:
Similar bands in some huge deposits containing calcium carbonate and calcium sulphate in Texas are also used to argue the case for long ages.17 One explanation says the deposits were formed when the sun evaporated seawater — hence the term ‘evaporite deposits’. Naturally, to make such large deposits in this way would take a long time. However, the high chemical purity of the deposits shows they were not exposed to a dry, dusty climate for thousands of years. Rather, it is more likely that they formed rapidly from the interaction between hot and cold seawater during undersea volcanic activity — a hydrothermal deposit.18 Reference:
answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i4/geology.asp
Wow. Answers in Genesis. The organization that REQUIRES members to ignore evidence that contradicts a literal reading of Genesis. Imagine them opposing the facts.

Once again, there are evaporite formations that are overlain and underlain by clastic deposits. Where are the extrusive rocks to support such a claim?
Again the method of preserving fossil footprints requires rapid burial [like twice daily tides] which supports the above explanation for evaporites.
Hmm. Twice a day tides support the deposition of evaporites? I though you were claiming that it was subsea volcanism. Also, if the world were covered by flood waters, who or what was walking in mud that was subject to tidal surges? I guess that the flood was one of the shallowest floods of all time!
All the clams along the river are “closed” indicating that they were involved in a rapid flowing watery environment such as the hydraulic engineer explained in my previous post. If they had died naturally their shells would have been open.
Nope. Your YEC source is wrong again. Clams that die insitu will remain closed.
Oh Yes, in 2004 an excavation found a 4 inch long fossilized worm imbedded in the limestone indicating rapid burial. It’s nick name is “mighty worm” and can be found in the local museum in the Cretaceous limestone rock in which it was discovered. 🙂
Would that be Carl Baugh’s museum?

Peace

Tim
 
It’s vastly too clear, even a child can understand what’s shown there with ease, why is it so hard for you to see? This is simple, basic, absolutely absurd how the logic is presented on it being so clear, those lines and patterns are not random at all, the pieces fit together too perfectly to simply toss it out the window just because it conflicts with your current understanding.

I’m learning more and more here about how the so called “experts” are holding us back from advancing our understanding of God’s creation. I’ve lost all respect for everything I’ve ever been taught about science, for it is a flawed understanding, it’s to the point of herasy at this stage. No wonder I’ve had so much opposition when presenting my own theories to the community, they don’t want to hear the truth, they want to have their lack of understanding reinforced by other’s lack of understanding.

The only thing this is doing is making me take a much harder look at everything I’ve been taught, I’m re-evaluating it all at this stage. Science has failed, it has in the past, it is now, it will in the future, it’s a toy at best, and in most cases, a complete waste of time especially when it clearly goes against the word of God. It would be really cool to form a group or system that can seriously go through all of what we are taught and take a second take on it all, for we are being lied to on a massive scale.
That’s what we are doing on the internet.
 
The irony behind this, originally the internet was created to allow for easier communication between universities as a tool to advance knowledge, we are again using it in the manner it was designed for.
 
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