Strange Experience on Tuesday

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Don_Ruggero said:
The Archdiocese of New York City has an excellent Office of Liturgy and Worship in its diocesan curia. That would be an excellent place to share your experience and your concerns, so they may take note of it and be aware of it.
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You’re encouraging him to rat out this good priest???
 
I was told that the graces given to the faithful attending a Tridentine mass (Latin mass) are greater than those gained at novus ordo masses.
 
Cardinal Sarah said:

“To be oriented towards God is before all else an interior action, a conversion of our soul towards the one God. The liturgy should foster in us this conversion towards the Lord who is the Way, the Truth, the Life. To do this it uses signs, simple means. The celebration [of Mass] ad orientem is part of this. It is one of the treasures of the Christian people that permit us to preserve the spirit of the liturgy. The oriented celebration should not become the expression of a partisan and polemical attitude. On the contrary, it should be the expression of the most intimate and essential movement of all liturgy: turning ourselves towards the Lord who comes.”

Bear in mind some priests, bishops and even those in even higher offices in the Catholic Church, and laity too, to be fair have an absolute ignorance of and aversion to Latin or anything that smacks of tradition in catholic life being very much enamoured of Vatican II and formed in the 1960s and 70s - guitars, felt banners, cheesy music - you get the picture. So opinion on the Tridentine mass or ad orientum is divided. But the EF form of the mass is growing steadily.
 
Jesus said, wherever 2 or 3 or more meet in His name, He is there also

Jesus did not qualify this by giving latitude, longitude co-ordinates, compass points, ie N, W, E or S. or even NNE.

Seriously people

You really believe Jesus will say nah, no consecration today, her Bishop is 2 degrees east of NW?
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Jesus said, wherever 2 or 3 or more meet in His name, He is there also

Jesus did not qualify this by giving latitude, longitude co-ordinates, compass points, ie N, W, E or S. or even NNE.

Seriously people

You really believe Jesus will say nah, no consecration today, her Bishop is 2 degrees east of NW?
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Spritus1 said:
I was told that the graces given to the faithful attending a Tridentine mass (Latin mass) are greater than those gained at novus ordo masses.
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One, there’s no such thing as the “Novus Ordo Mass.” It’s just a phrase thrown around by the rad-trads because it sounds scary.

Two, whoever told you that was (at best) badly misinformed, and perhaps worse. It sounds like something the Society of St. Pius X would say, and they’re flirting with schism.
 
Inisfallen said:
Yes, the priest can state the church’s teaching in a homily. As I said, it’s his sermon, he can do what he wants. I always hope to hear a bit more than just a recitation of the catechism, that’s all.
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You don’t regularly attend that parish, correct? It might be what the parish needs. I don’t live in NYC anymore but it might be that the catechism needs to be heard in more parishes.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Jesus said, wherever 2 or 3 or more meet in His name, He is there also

Jesus did not qualify this by giving latitude, longitude co-ordinates, compass points, ie N, W, E or S. or even NNE.

Seriously people

You really believe Jesus will say nah, no consecration today, her Bishop is 2 degrees east of NW?
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Funny thing about when people bring up WWJD. Their answer to their own question always seems to have Jesus conforming to their opinion of what Jesus would do.
 
johnnyc176 said:
Funny thing about when people bring up WWJD. Their answer to their own question always seems to have Jesus conforming to their opinion of what Jesus would do.
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What is WWJD? I have no idea.

But in the meantime, Are you going to dispute Jesus saying where 2 or more meet, Jesus is also there?
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Wwjd means what would Jesus do?
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Yes. I just think we should be careful with that term or alluding to it. You hear it when people want their own personal Jesus that will conform to their particular political or theological ideas.
 
johnnyc176 said:
Yes. I just think we should be careful with that term or alluding to it. You hear it when people want their own personal Jesus that will conform to their particular political or theological ideas.
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Are you going to answer my question?
 
Roseeurekacross said:
I don’t think we should reduce sentences with Jesus in them to acronyms.

Post # well the one discussing co-ordinates
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I agree but it is what it is. People…usually protestants actually wear bracelets with WWJD on them. I’m sorry but you lost me with the co-ordinates thing.
 
johnnyc176 said:
I’m not sure what you mean. You asked me WWJD meant.
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You are the one who brought up “WWJD”

Roseeurekacross’s only use of initials involved compass directions.

Inexplicably, you answered her with a statement about the use of “WWJD”…which made no sense. It is an Americanism that the many of us who are, in fact, not Americans do not employ.
 
Roseeurekacross said:
Jesus said, wherever 2 or 3 or more meet in His name, He is there also

Jesus did not qualify this by giving latitude, longitude co-ordinates, compass points, ie N, W, E or S. or even NNE.

Seriously people

You really believe Jesus will say nah, no consecration today, her Bishop is 2 degrees east of NW?
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By the way, Roseeurekacross, you are absolutely right.
 
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