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Its mentioned in Holy Father’s Jesus of Nazereth, and I posted about this Rabbi here a couple times.

I am so glad someone here read it, I am waiting for it from the library still.
Valke2 said:
I just read a very interesting book called “A Rabbi Speaks with Jesus.” The author did an excellent job, I think, in setting forth the fundamental differences between Judaism and Christianity, focusing only on the Jesus of Matthew’s Gospel. I think both Christians and Jews would get a lot out of the book.

It’s written by a rabbi, but endorsed by a pope 🙂
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Valke2 said:
Assuming that doctrine does not change, that doesn’t mean you can’t have a liberal or different view/commentary of the unchanging doctrine. I was suprised to see such dismissive posts here. Are you saying there is no such thing as a liberal catholic perspective?
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You must admit, that most posters here at CAF are in line with the magesterium, and you wont find too many extreeme liberals expousing their views here.

I wonder why?:confused:
 
I am a damn Yankee Madam.

And I happen to wonder why this is in sacred scripture

Would you like to duel with bible verses madam?🙂
SpiritMeadow said:
I guess I’m so sad that a Catholic of all people would refer to feminist theology as goddess worship? I must be incredibly naive to have thought that Catholics were among the best read, most educated. There are several here that sound like the worst kind of bible pounding redneck from ____plug in your favorite redneck state. But I’ve met way to many fine priests and nuns whose faith is deep and beautiful and who manage to be able to look critically at other theologies and glean what is useful.

To those of you who answered, openly or privately with useful sources, I thank you.
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SpiritMeadow said:
I guess I’m so sad that a Catholic of all people would refer to feminist theology as goddess worship? I must be incredibly naive to have thought that Catholics were among the best read, most educated. There are several here that sound like the worst kind of bible pounding redneck from ____plug in your favorite redneck state. But I’ve met way to many fine priests and nuns whose faith is deep and beautiful and who manage to be able to look critically at other theologies and glean what is useful.

To those of you who answered, openly or privately with useful sources, I thank you.
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Sheesh- lay off the kid-I read everything- i mean everything about biblical studies- it doesn’t make you a heretic- read her link"you will know them by their fruits.":mad:
 
juliamajor said:
Sheesh- lay off the kid-I read everything- i mean everything about biblical studies- it doesn’t make you a heretic- read her link"you will know them by their fruits.":mad:
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I’m not sure how I’m supposed to take this. I don’t think its a compliment…lol… I’m sure glad I never met you folks when I was deciding to convert, I sure never would have. Thank God for Dominicans!

Have any of you ever noticed that occasionally the Vatican removed yet another book from its banned list? Just lately another theologian Jesuit I believe was returned to good grace. I feel rather frightened if I’m being asked to set aside my brain in order to be a Catholic. Fundamentalist scare tactics.
 
Hellisreal said:
I am a damn Yankee Madam.

And I happen to wonder why this is in sacred scripture

Would you like to duel with bible verses madam?🙂
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It’s here because its I asked a question about “study tools”

Why would I want to duel with verses? I asked about books, authors, and websites. And like I said, I got plenty of private responses from folks who think it might be smart to use their own brains too, and not just be directed what to think.
 
SpiritMeadow said:
I’m not sure how I’m supposed to take this. I don’t think its a compliment…lol… I’m sure glad I never met you folks when I was deciding to convert, I sure never would have. Thank God for Dominicans!

Have any of you ever noticed that occasionally the Vatican removed yet another book from its banned list? Just lately another theologian Jesuit I believe was returned to good grace. I feel rather frightened if I’m being asked to set aside my brain in order to be a Catholic. Fundamentalist scare tactics.
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It’s a compliment for sure:D Don’t let anybody get you down “Welcome Good and Faithful Servant” and unless you prove otherwise that is how you’ll stay-I’m looking at modernist errors right now and honey, I don’t find you there- so your all right 👍 Besides studying something doesn’t mean agreeing with it. As for tools for Bible study let me suggest: The"new Jerome Biblical commentary" many different authors. There are bible commentaries by Scott hanh that are very good. New collegeville commentaries are good-what’s good about them is you can buy a commentary for each in Book of the bible-so if you want a commentary on “Luke” you can buy one just for “Luke”. Of course a good bible translation - I prefer RSV and get a concordance to go with it. A bible Atlas is Helpful-rand mcnally puts out a very reasonable one- and a Bible Dictionary- harper collins is very good,one by a jesuit named Mackenzie is very good-I think it’s just called the Bible Dictionary -google it.-. let me say that studying the bible can be very addicting- I’ve got books about Plants of the Bible- about living in ancient Israel -of sociopolitical impact on people of Jesus’ time period etc. .I’ve got Bibles from all different views with commentaries that go along with it.So take comments from people with a grain of salt .Peace:)
 
SpiritMeadow said:
Have any of you ever noticed that occasionally the Vatican removed yet another book from its banned list? Just lately another theologian Jesuit I believe was returned to good grace.
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Hi, SpiritMeadow!

Can you elaborate on that point? There haven’t been any prohibited books since the last edition of the Index Librorum Prohibitorum was published in 1948, only to be suppressed in 1966.

Although, yes, This Congregation for Doctrine of Faith says that its index “keeps its moral value in the sense that it is asking to the conscience of the faithful to be on guard against the written materials that can put the faith and good conduct in danger,” there are no “forbidden” books.

Are you saying that a writer was taken off of a specific list that hasn’t been maintained? :confused:
 
Miserissima said:
Hi, SpiritMeadow!

Can you elaborate on that point? There haven’t been any prohibited books since the last edition of the Index Librorum Prohibitorum was published in 1948, only to be suppressed in 1966.

Although, yes, This Congregation for Doctrine of Faith says that its index “keeps its moral value in the sense that it is asking to the conscience of the faithful to be on guard against the written materials that can put the faith and good conduct in danger,” there are no “forbidden” books.

Are you saying that a writer was taken off of a specific list that hasn’t been maintained? :confused:
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I sure wish I could remember. Seems it might have been at the Catholic Reporter. I think it was an 18th century, maybe 19th, Jesuit theologian, who’s books were banned for non-adherence to doctrine. I’m thinking I remember 40 some objections. His stuff is now considered doctrinally okay. I rather think they jump on this stuff a bit faster, given the Galilao delay…
 
juliamajor said:
It’s a compliment for sure:D Don’t let anybody get you down “Welcome Good and Faithful Servant” and unless you prove otherwise that is how you’ll stay-I’m looking at modernist errors right now and honey, I don’t find you there- so your all right 👍 Besides studying something doesn’t mean agreeing with it. As for tools for Bible study let me suggest: The"new Jerome Biblical commentary" many different authors. There are bible commentaries by Scott hanh that are very good. New collegeville commentaries are good-what’s good about them is you can buy a commentary for each in Book of the bible-so if you want a commentary on “Luke” you can buy one just for “Luke”. Of course a good bible translation - I prefer RSV and get a concordance to go with it. A bible Atlas is Helpful-rand mcnally puts out a very reasonable one- and a Bible Dictionary- harper collins is very good,one by a jesuit named Mackenzie is very good-I think it’s just called the Bible Dictionary -google it.-. let me say that studying the bible can be very addicting- I’ve got books about Plants of the Bible- about living in ancient Israel -of sociopolitical impact on people of Jesus’ time period etc. .I’ve got Bibles from all different views with commentaries that go along with it.So take comments from people with a grain of salt .Peace:)
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Well glad to here it! I use mostly the NJB and the NRSV. I like Scott Hahn fine, but consider his stuff apologetic, and not really for serious study. I just got Joel Marcus’s “Mark” from Anchor. There stuff is very excellent. I have several of the “Intrepretation” books as well, the Genesis is amazing, but that is more pastoral than exegetical. The idea of a bible dictionary sounds intriguing. The more you underderstand the ancient world, the better you understand the various biblical writers I think. Thanks for the nice post.
 
SpiritMeadow said:
Well glad to here it! I use mostly the NJB and the NRSV. I like Scott Hahn fine, but consider his stuff apologetic, and not really for serious study. I just got Joel Marcus’s “Mark” from Anchor. There stuff is very excellent. I have several of the “Intrepretation” books as well, the Genesis is amazing, but that is more pastoral than exegetical. The idea of a bible dictionary sounds intriguing. The more you underderstand the ancient world, the better you understand the various biblical writers I think. Thanks for the nice post.
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Have you seen Sacra Pagina ( on the New Testament) and Berit Olam (on the Hebrew Scriptures) published by Liturgical Press. They are an excellent series done by top notch scripture. scholars. They have been required in some of my graduate scriptire courses.
 
Hellisreal said:
You must admit, that most posters here at CAF are in line with the magesterium, and you wont find too many extreeme liberals expousing their views here.

I wonder why?:confused:
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That’s true. but there are certainly commentaries and books that teach Catholicism from different perspectives. I just happened to be in a bookstore today and saw a book that was called something like the Catholic Woman’s Bible.
 
SpiritMeadow said:
Well glad to here it! I use mostly the NJB and the NRSV. I like Scott Hahn fine, but consider his stuff apologetic, and not really for serious study. I just got Joel Marcus’s “Mark” from Anchor. There stuff is very excellent. I have several of the “Intrepretation” books as well, the Genesis is amazing, but that is more pastoral than exegetical. The idea of a bible dictionary sounds intriguing. The more you underderstand the ancient world, the better you understand the various biblical writers I think. Thanks for the nice post.
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I have a suggestion for you. I recommend e-Sword. Yes, it is Protestant, but they have the D-R and Latin Vulgate available as free downloads. They also have the Early Church Fathers’ writings available. Plus, Strongs’ and Vine’s are excellent, in spite of being Protestant.
 
lak611 said:
I have a suggestion for you. I recommend e-Sword. Yes, it is Protestant, but they have the D-R and Latin Vulgate available as free downloads. They also have the Early Church Fathers’ writings available. Plus, Strongs’ and Vine’s are excellent, in spite of being Protestant.
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there are really lots and lots of info you can get on the internet .all my bookmarks are websites for bible study.I love this stuff:D But to tell the truth I love my old fashioned books better:o Good hunting Spiritmeadow!😛
 
juliamajor said:
there are really lots and lots of info you can get on the internet .all my bookmarks are websites for bible study.I love this stuff:D But to tell the truth I love my old fashioned books better:o Good hunting Spiritmeadow!😛
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I like books better, too. Unfortunately, I cannot afford to stock my library with as many books as I would like. Therefore, I get many commentaries/dictionaries online at e-Sword. I do own a lot of Bibles: RSV (ecumenical version with Apocrypha), RSV-CE, D-R, Confraternity, KJV (three of them, one with Apocrypha and one without, plus the 1611 version), NEB, NASB, NJB, NKJV, NAB, ESV, and Message Bible. All of my Bibles are leather-bound. I also own a hardbound Strong’s Concordance. The rest of my Bibles are those I downloaded from e-Sword and other Bible sites: ASV, NRSV, NIV, etc. I also downloaded the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and some intra-linears.
 
lak611 said:
I like books better, too. Unfortunately, I cannot afford to stock my library with as many books as I would like. Therefore, I get many commentaries/dictionaries online at e-Sword. I do own a lot of Bibles: RSV (ecumenical version with Apocrypha), RSV-CE, D-R, Confraternity, KJV (three of them, one with Apocrypha and one without, plus the 1611 version), NEB, NASB, NJB, NKJV, NAB, ESV, and Message Bible. All of my Bibles are leather-bound. I also own a hardbound Strong’s Concordance. The rest of my Bibles are those I downloaded from e-Sword and other Bible sites: ASV, NRSV, NIV, etc. I also downloaded the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and some intra-linears.
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I am very thrifty when it comes to my books- iI go to garage sales flea markets by used(a lot)The best deal by me is a library sale we have here of discarded or donated books- just thinking about it makes my mouth water:Plus birthday,holiday or anniversary gifts - people always give me a book gift certificate. building your own library up is difficult but it can be done.Just enjoy the hunt:D
 
well after a rough beginning, things are definitely looking up. Thanks for all the great ideas. I’ll be looking a number of them up. I know how some of you feel, because I’m the same. The more I learn the more I want to learn. I’ve been finding a few great blogs around about as well. It’s amazing what some of these “amateurs” can do. I feel like a raw rookie in comparison. What I am having the most difficulty with is that so many articles and websites refuse to identify themselves. I was taught in grad school that this was essential for any serious writer. All these baptist schools now call themselves seminaries now. Thats been my biggest challenge in finding stuff I feel I can rely on.

BTW. I cant download this weird spellcheck so my apologies when I misspell.
 
I just remembered another good website with lots of original sources. It is the Christain Classics Ethereal Library. The URL is www.ccel.org.
 
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