Studying for Priesthood In the Italian Language

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There is something about priestly formation study that puzzles me. Some diocese’s and communities require that their seminarians go off to Rome to finish their studies entirely in the Italian language. The thought of this seems at the very least, daunting, if not outright impossible for some who may not be able to complete college level studies in what for them is a foreign language. I’d like to know if anyone knows why this would be required (in some places) considering that there are seminaries here in the states.

I am examining prayerfully the possibility of a priestly vocation, but for me the prospect of a diocese or community (that I have visited) sending me off to university level study in a foreign language presents for me a possible stumbling block. I realize God grants graces to get us through things like this, but for practical considerations, I would like to ask for anyone’s insights on this. Thanks.
 
Put your life in God’s hands & He will provide!

Take it one step at a time, only certain candidates go to Rome, most do not.

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I watch him all the time. He’s a great priest and a remarkable person
 
Most dioceses and religious orders examine a candidate very carefully before that decision is made (whether or not to send a man to Rome). If the bishop or religious superior thought that a man would struggle in such a setting (ie, not having the capacity to master or at least study in another language), they would not send him to study in such an environment.
 
I remember reading about this exact thing in a book a few years back. As you rightly guessed few Americans end up in Rome with enough Italian skills to carry on a conversation let alone study theology. From what I remember the students take on a collaborative approach to studying where the few with good Italian skills take good notes and attempt to translate them as best as possible for others, these notes are then supplemented with more notes and materials from older students that are handed down from one group to another. Of course the students also spend hours upon hours reading their text books too. This generally works since many of the professors have been there for many years and teach the same courses year after year. I believe in some classes the students have the option of taking exams orally and most professors speak English well enough that they can administer the tests in English if needed.

I believe this description comes from “The New Men: Inside the Vatican’s Elite School for American Priests.” I’m sorry but I don’t have the author’s name or other publishing information.

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There is something about priestly formation study that puzzles me. Some diocese’s and communities require that their seminarians go off to Rome to finish their studies entirely in the Italian language. The thought of this seems at the very least, daunting, if not outright impossible for some who may not be able to complete college level studies in what for them is a foreign language. I’d like to know if anyone knows why this would be required (in some places) considering that there are seminaries here in the states.

I am examining prayerfully the possibility of a priestly vocation, but for me the prospect of a diocese or community (that I have visited) sending me off to university level study in a foreign language presents for me a possible stumbling block. I realize God grants graces to get us through things like this, but for practical considerations, I would like to ask for anyone’s insights on this. Thanks.
Only those are sent to Rome for further study who, in the estimation of their bishop, can best learn their whatever they need to advance in the duties he has in mind for them. That would include someone he envisions having a career in the Church that will someday take him higher in Church governance and affairs, and to do that, you have to spend time in Rome, and to do that, you need Italian. You will also need ecclesial Latin, which are also required, and until a generation ago was required of all priests in formation, as was Greek for higher study.

In this country (US) many seminaries as recently as 100 years ago taught entirely in German, since German priests and bishops and nuns were the majority in the 19th C. American Church. In some states in fact, Ohio for one, legistlatures avoided narrowly adopting German as the official state language. This provided a road block for many holy priests, Fr. Solanus Casey among them. Many Mexican priests, and priests from Latin America whose first language is Spanish, are sent to American seminaries to complete their formation and find English a huge stumbling block. That is not to mention Americans, and those in formation in American seminaries, from other countries who have a sizeable Catholic population in the US–from Viet Nam, Filipino, from India etc.

It is a difficulty and a challenge but not necessarily a barrier. There are intensive language preparation programs available you can use on your own, or usually sponsored by dioceses. Why not cross that bridge when you come to it, concentrate now on completing your general liberal arts education, which should never neglect a second language, and your spiritual formation including working with a vocations director.

We will be praying for you we need you.

I can tell you that in many seminaries, ours included, a seminarian from Mexico who plans to be ordained in a US Diocese will not advance to further study and ordination unless he can make satisfactory progress in learning English because he will have to know it to serve the Church in the US. They are often sent to study in seminaries where they will be challenged to work on their language skills, and do so with heroic effort. Most American dioceses now insist that all their seminarians learn Spanish as well, since there are very few American dioceses any more where this knowledge will not be essential to best serve their congregations.
 
I don’t know about religious communities, but if you’re considering a call to the diocesan priesthood, 9 out of 10 they’ll send their seminarians to study at the North American College. If you’re sent there, you sometimes get a choice as to what school you wish to attend. The Dominicans run the Angelicum, in which instructions are given in English as well as in Italian. The Jesuits run the Gregorianum, which is all Italian. Either way you’ll have to learn some conversational Italian to survive in Rome, but the mere fact that you’re sent to Rome does not mean you’ll be doing your studies all in Italian.

The most important thing, though, is this - don’t let questions like this factor into your discernment. What’s more important is whether God is calling you to be a priest or not. Figure that out first. And then if He is calling you to be a priest, then you can start looking at questions like the one you ask.
 
@puzzleannie: A significant number of religious orders also sen men to their mother houses (a large majority in the vicinity of Rome) for some portion of their formation, even for studies.

@Refugio: There is a chance that they would then do their studies at potentially any of the colleges in Rome, so there is a possibility that they would be able to study in English.
 
The most important thing, though, is this - don’t let questions like this factor into your discernment. What’s more important is whether God is calling you to be a priest or not. Figure that out first. And then if He is calling you to be a priest, then you can start looking at questions like the one you ask.
Exactly. If you are called to be a priest and find yourself in Rome finishing your studies, you will likely be overjoyed to be there! Rome is the seat of our church and every priest I know who studied in Rome felt absolutely blessed by the opportunity.
 
Thanks for the generous feedback everyone. Yes, foremost of all considerations is God’s will. The requirement of this being that we strive to do his will in the present moment. Thank you for reminding me of this.

The order I am prayerfully considering is the Franciscan Friars of The Immaculate (FFI). I had the opportunity to visit one of their friaries for a week and all went very well. The main thing that caused me trepidation was when I learned that years 3-7 (if one makes it that far) are all spent in Rome studying in Italian.

I know that God does not intend for us to exclude our use of reason in finding his will for us. In that sense my question about possibly studying in Italian was a practical consideration. I think that really the most important thing for me is to allow God to lead me to sanctification (which I really need). That may mean that if I am accepted to the FFI, that God intends first my sanctification and then what follows will be in obedience to His will and not my own plan. If I can follow God’s plan and not my own, I think I’ll be ok.
 
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