Stuggling please help

[jesus4ever]

i am having a problem and need some advice.

i have stuggled with thoughts of which i am thinking something: example would be thinking weather i should do a prayer again because i didn’t do it proply this morning then all of a sudden my thoughts are “i’m not going to do this f___ prayer”. straight after that i got annoyed because i dont know if i am responsible for thinking the word f___. also i dont know if such a this would be a motal sin

the thing is i dont know if i thought it myslef. you know if i am responisble…

i never say the F word.

can anyone help me and give me advice as to wether this is a venial sin or a grave mortal sin. i do deal with a lot of thoughts issue and not know what is grave and what is just venial.

I always find myself over thinking things and this is one of then for the week.

 

[BobObob]

i am having a problem and need some advice.

i have stuggled with thoughts of which i am thinking something: example would be thinking weather i should do a prayer again because i didn’t do it proply this morning then all of a sudden my thoughts are “i’m not going to do this f___ prayer”. straight after that i got annoyed because i dont know if i am responsible for thinking the word f___. also i dont know if such a this would be a motal sin

the thing is i dont know if i thought it myslef. you know if i am responisble…

i never say the F word.

can anyone help me and give me advice as to wether this is a venial sin or a grave mortal sin. i do deal with a lot of thoughts issue and not know what is grave and what is just venial.

I always find myself over thinking things and this is one of then for the week.

Even if you did intentionally think of the F word (as opposed to it being a thought that automatically came to your mind) I don’t think that thinking the F word (or any word) is a sin.

Just like any word, there is actually nothing intrinsically wrong with the F word or its use. It just depends on the context in which it is used (how, why, and in what culture). In the US it would often be a sin to intentionally say the F word out loud because people would take offense to it, but that’s just a cultural thing.

Try not to worry about things that come to your mind. It’s not uncommon for many to have various disturbing thoughts to come to one’s mind, even, or especially, during prayer. In order for a thought of any kind to be sinful, it has to be intentional. For a thought to be mortally sinful, it must by fully willed (meaning it needs to be a personal choice).

 

[Monica4316]

Even if you did intentionally think of the F word (as opposed to it being a thought that automatically came to your mind) I don’t think that thinking the F word (or any word) is a sin.

Just like any word, there is actually nothing intrinsically wrong with the F word or its use. It just depends on the context in which it is used (how, why, and in what culture). In the US it would often be a sin to intentionally say the F word out loud because people would take offense to it, but that’s just a cultural thing.

Try not to worry about things that come to your mind. It’s not uncommon for many to have various disturbing thoughts to come to one’s mind, even, or especially, during prayer. In order for a thought of any kind to be sinful, it has to be intentional. For a thought to be mortally sinful, it must by fully willed (meaning it needs to be a personal choice).

I would disagree with the first two paragraphs, I think that saying such words is a sin and not just because other people would be offended…but because it corrupts the soul, if used intentionally and willfully.

It doesn’t sound like the OP meant it at all, since their intention was not to think anything hateful about prayer; quite the opposite so it was probably just a random thought and if this happens again it might help to just focus on something else and ignore the temptation. When we focus on such things the devil often uses them to disturb our peace.

But I think when people willfully, intentially use this word, - especially with anger - that is sinful…

 

[jesus4ever]

what about if I start a thought like this due to habbit but when it happens i get very annoyed and angry or even a little upset that it happened would this be mortal at all.

i also stuggle with impure images that come to mind. an example would be my mum is watching the young and the restless and i am on the computer but the tv is near by so i can not help but look at the tv and a pretty women is being shown or they are kissing and right away i feel that i start images in my mind that i feel i start due to habbit. i dont entertain them and i try to get rid of them right away so within seconds the image is gone. but if i start this problem would this be consided grave.

it doesn’t take much for images to start in my head no matter what i am looking at the problem is if i start them due to habbit but am fighting to stop them and get rid of them would it only be maybe venial. sorry for being a difficult person.

 

[1ke]

You should seek the counsel of a holy priest who is familiar with scrupulosity. It sounds like you might be suffering from it if you believe you have to resay prayers because you didn’t say them right, and if you have uncontrolled thoughts that you are always sinning.

A good and holy priest can help you with spiritual direction.

 

[Lief_Erikson]

what about if I start a thought like this due to habbit but when it happens i get very annoyed and angry or even a little upset that it happened would this be mortal at all.

i also stuggle with impure images that come to mind. an example would be my mum is watching the young and the restless and i am on the computer but the tv is near by so i can not help but look at the tv and a pretty women is being shown or they are kissing and right away i feel that i start images in my mind that i feel i start due to habbit. i dont entertain them and i try to get rid of them right away so within seconds the image is gone. but if i start this problem would this be consided grave.

it doesn’t take much for images to start in my head no matter what i am looking at the problem is if i start them due to habbit but am fighting to stop them and get rid of them would it only be maybe venial. sorry for being a difficult person.

Don’t worry about being a difficult person. You’re being a heroic person, fighting as you should against evil, walking the narrow path to Heaven. You are not guilty of any sin if you fight the thoughts and try to resist. Only if you stop fighting and decide to start indulging instead is it sin, and this can become mortal depending on the circumstances. As long as you are trying hard to take precautions and defend your mind as best you can, you are doing well! You can offer your suffering under this trial up to God, asking Him to use it to make you holy and pure, and I’m sure He will pour out graces on you as a result of suffering for Him. This won’t necessarily happen immediately, but it will happen. Also, ask that He be with you whenever this trial hits you, that your struggle up the path toward the crucifixion of your sin and His struggle up the path toward Golgotha may become one and the same, that you may be united with Him through this suffering.

You are doing well. You are not guilty of any mortal sins, probably not any venial sins either.

For a sin to be mortal, it must fulfill three conditions. These are that the sin be of grave matter, that it be committed with full knowledge of its sinfulness, and that the one who commits it gives it full consent. When you are trying to resist the thoughts, even if you fail while trying to fight it, you are not giving the thought full consent and consequently it is not a mortal sin. As long as you keep trying to fight, you are not in any sin, provided you really are trying and not just putting up a token effort in order to make yourself feel better while actually indulging. The latter could easily be mortal sin, compounded with a lie. One needs to really resist as best one can, and then if one falls while really, truly trying, it is not a sin. But we should rely on God’s grace so that we do not fall. For falling can easily be sin and any willful opening this door a crack is sin.

Anyway, you’re doing well and I want to encourage you to keep up what you’re trying to do now. I went through the same thing and after a long time, God relieved me of the trial. Then my mind was purified when I sacrificed all occasions to sin, all activities in which I might see or read things that are sexually arousing. Just keep the good fight going as long as it takes, and as long as you’re fighting for God, you will not be sinning but will be gaining righteousness through the experience of suffering and fighting for Him. God will give you abundant spiritual treasures for this trial if you keep seeking Him.

 

[Polycarp1]

When you pray, Satan and his minions are not happy, they whispers bad words in your ear and try to distract you with sinful images. Don’t forget that we are all engaged in spiritual warfare. Keep praying and the more they do it pray more! Praise more. Once they see that what they are doing is backfiring they will quit for a while at least at first ,and eventually give up.

When you pray through these attacks and when you are not feeling holy, you are relying on faith alone and although you may not feel it this is when your prayers are the most powerful because you are acting on faith alone.

Faith is not a feeling or an emotion, it is what you know to be true. And you know that God loves you and hears your prayers. Nothing can change that. Satan even tried to distract Jesus in the desert. If Jesus was subjected to these attacks we can all expect to encounter them as well. Jesus showed us that we can win if we stay true to the truth.

Whatever you do, don’t stop praying because if you do they win. Be a Prayer Warrior!