Sublime Morality of Torture and Murder

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A very useful qoute:

"The most famous of all Jewish-Christian disputations was between the apostate Jew Pablo Christiani and Moses Nachmanides (the Ramban).

Nachmanides argued that the central issue separating Christianity and Judaism was not the issue of Jesus’ messiahship, but whether or not Jesus was divine. There was no basis in Judaism, Nachmanides said, for believing in the divinity of the Messiah or, indeed, of any man.

To Nachmanides, it seemed most strange :

“**that the Creator of heaven and earth resorted to the womb of a certain Jewess and grew there for nine months and was born as an infant, and afterwards grew up and was betrayed into the hands of his enemies who sentenced him to death and executed him, and that afterwards… he came to life and returned to his original place. The mind of a Jew, or any other person, cannot tolerate this.” **

Nachmanides told the Spanish monarch:

“**You have listened all your life to priests who have filled your brain and the marrow of your bones with this doctrine, and it has settled with you because of that accustomed habit.”

Had King James heard these ideas propounded for the first time when he was already an adult, Nachmanides implied, he never would have accepted them. ** "


simpletoremember.com/vitals/jewsandjesus.htm

God bless you all.
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ok Justice, we already know your tactics when you are unable to answer :
  • bash the OT…as if u understand the passages you quote or as if we follow the OT…buddy, the OT is an introduction to us, and you still did not learn how to approach a book written 2000 years ago for a certain people…so just save your energy …
-babble about different translations…forgot our discussion about variants in quran? please be consistent and do not quote the same passages over and over again in different threads…

If you can refute Rodrigo’s claim, go ahead…“thinking” that the OT passages u quote are bad means that you know mohammad was bad…we follow Jesus not Jeremiah…we follow Jesus’ eternal law not the OT’s law for a certain period to certain people which was fulfilled by Jesus…if you want to compare mohammad to someone, let it be the One we follow: Jesus Christ.
 
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inJESUS:
ok Justice, we already know your tactics when you are unable to answer :
  • bash the OT…as if u understand the passages you quote or as if we follow the OT…buddy, the OT is an introduction to us, .
Dear inJESUS,

And why you are deleting my post(s)? Why did you delete my post which was about Human “dung” in your Holy Bibles"?

Are you ashamed to use the word “dung” when the Holy Bibles’ God have used it many times? Are you holier than the God of your holy Bibles?

BTW, tell me in your Catholic Bible (DRV) how many times “dung” is used? And what cow’s dung has to do with children of Israel?

God bless you.

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Dear inJESUS,
And why you are deleting my post(s)? Why did you delete my post which was about
Human “dung” in your Holy Bibles"?
what on earth are you talking about? how can i delete your posts?
still on this dung passage? wasnt the explanation clear for you?
Are you ashamed to use the word “dung” when the Holy Bibles’ God have used it
many times? Are you holier than the God of your holy Bibles?
Lord have mercy…i already answered this question with a very simple sentence in basic english…was it hard on you?
BTW, tell me in your Catholic Bible (DRV) how many times “dung” is used?
pathetic…as if i care…go count if you have nothing better to ponder upon.
And
what cow’s dung has to do with children of Israel?
indeed, you did not understand the explanation.
 
By using filth for the fire, Ezekiel was showing that God’s judgement would be an awful and repulsive experience for the Israelites. His action foretold in a graphic way the terrible conditions that the Israelites would have to endure in exile. God did not leave us to guess the meaning of the `cake eating drama’. He Himself explains what the drama means in verses 13-17, saying, “Thus shall the people of Israel eat their bread unclean, among the nations whither I will drive them … Behold I will break the staff of bread in Jerusalem; they shall eat bread by weight … and they shall drink water by measure … I will do this that they may lack bread and water, and look at one another in dismay, and waste away under their punishment.”

This prophecy that God would drive the Israelites into exile came true 6 years later in 586 B.C. (Ezekiel 1:2, also 2 Kings 24,25). During the Babylonian siege on Jerusalem food and water did become very scarce. The people were taken into exile where circumstances made it practically impossible for them to avoid eating ritually unclean food. In exile they would be subject to unbelieving masters who did not care if they could prepare their food according to their own laws of clean and unclean food. This situation was portrayed in advance by the drama of food cooked over a filthy fire

got it now? got what Ezekiel was trying to say?
 
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inJESUS:
what on earth are you talking about? how can i delete your posts?
If you did not delete my posts then you must have told the Moderator to delete them.

Now just look above where is my post to which you are answering !!

Amazing…

God bless you and your moderator who is deleting my posts about human and cow’s dung in the Holy Bibles.

If these type of verses about **Human and Cow’s dung ** were found in other religious books, would you still have deleted them?

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Justice2006 said:
If you did not delete my posts then you must have told the Moderator to delete them.
really? what post are you talking about and why should i ask the moderator to delete it and why should the moderator delete it if i ask him/her and why doesnt it show that he/she deleted it as usual? are you paranoic?
Now just look above where is my post to which you are answering?
Amazing…
yes amazing !! really !! i read it in the mail i get about each response to a thread i joined in !! see? sometimes things are not as hard as they appear.
God bless you and your moderator who is deleting my posts abotu human and cow’s dung in the Holy Bibles.
i saw this passage 2 times so far and i and others answered,why on earth should the moderator delete the same passage only once and leave it in other threads? logic?

why dont you ask the moderator anyway? do you think Deedat’s stupidity is not known?we already answered this silly claim bro wake up.
If these type of verses about Human and Cow’s dung were in other religious books, would you still have deleted them?
we answered this passage for Christ’ sake!! no we delete nothing !! go read its explanation! it was a prophetic passage about God’s punishment !!
 
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