Submission to God's Will always obligatory?

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@JosephDColeman
I have been explicitly avoiding your question.
My only question here is, IS IT A MORTAL SIN?
(I want absolution here, not sainthood.)
 
@AHJE
The sin confessed is that I cannot say “Guy Will be done.”
 
I’m not judging you but do you realize how satanic that sounds?

NON SERVIAM

Just saying … maybe you scared the Priest a bit. 🙂
 
David_Rudmin said:
I’m basically saying that I don’t love God TOTALLY . . . at least not yet.
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David_Rudmin said:
only that in SOME EPHEMERAL/PERIPHERAL THINGS, I want my Will rather than His.
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Why are you putting these two statements together. One isn’t necessarily a consequence of the other.

You don’t need to come here and tell everyone your business. There are some things that people need to work out themselves. Unless you’re more specific, you’ll get opinions all over the place which may hurt you rather than help.
 
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Why did you write “Guy” instead of “Thy” in “___ will be done”?
 
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@AHJE
The sin confessed is that I cannot say “Guy Will be done.”
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Mortal sin requires deliberate consent. If your desire is to love God and do his will but you are unable to perfectly unite your will to God, (and that’s all of us), then you are not committing a mortal sin by admitting you cannot give yourself completely to God’s will. You are simply being honest.

The fallen angels refused God’s will with deliberate malice. If you are confessing a sin, that can be evidence of repentance. If you are confessing merely therapeutically to make yourself feel better, your confessor might not see evidence of contrition and purpose of amendment.
 
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Because, with my weak fingers, I speak my text (voice-to-text), rather than typing it, so the computer wrongly thought that I said “Guy” instead of “Thy”.
 
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As Irishmom said, you need to go back to confession and work this out with the priest.

God’s will is going to be done whether you accept that or not.
If you don’t accept it, then you’re going to have a hard time just saying the Our Father, the prayer that Jesus himself gave us and told us to pray.
Acceptance of God’s will can be hard sometimes. When my loved ones die, it’s tough to accept that God willed it and that God willed for me to be all alone with my grief. It’s normal to have some doubts and struggles. However, acceptance of God’s will is not some aspirational goal for advanced Catholics. We’re called to accept it right here and now.

If you are having a doubt or a struggle over accepting God’s will, discuss that with your priest. If the priest believes you are not repentant or not sincere, he can withhold absolution. It’s his call.
If you go into confession and tell a priest that you don’t accept God’s will and don’t think Catholics should have to do that until they’re practically candidates for sainthood, then I would expect the priest to respond rather sternly to that.
 
You have free will, you can reject God just know that there are consequences to this rejection.
David_Rudmin said:
for me to REFUSE to say “Thy Will be done in all things”?
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This sounds much like the words put in the mouth of Lucifer in Paradise Lost “I will not serve”.
 
The more we align with God’s will the greater our own justice/righteousness. To put it another way, the more we love the nearer to righteousness we are, and the nearer to Him that we are. So the Church teaches that we will ultimately be judged on our love. But we’re all outside of God’s perfect will in some capacity or another, regardless of what we say-so it’s a work in process. A good work; we just need to keep striving upwards, in concert with His grace.
 
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David_Rudmin said:
I’m basically saying that I don’t love God TOTALLY . . . at least not yet.
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You seem to be saying that you do not want to follow God’s will in all things.

Now, I may not follow God’s will in all things but that is because I am weak, ignorant, careless, etc. Overall, I want to follow God’s will in everything, but I mess up.

Do you see the difference between what you are saying and what I am saying?
  1. It could be that you notice yourself failing to do God’s will, sometimes deliberately, and have thus concluded that you apparently do not want to do God’s will.
  2. Or it may be that you are saying, “Forget this! I wanna do what I wanna do, and I do not care what God wants in this matter!”
If the first, then you are like the rest of us, weak, riddled with concupiscence, full of bad habits, etc, but trying to do better. That is on the right path.

If the second, well, unfortunately, you are on the wrong path. It doesn’t matter that you want to put your will over God’s only in small things, because you attitude is that what you agree with you are willing to go along with, but what you don’t agree with, you will do your own thing. It just so happens that you agree with God on the big stuff. But in these small areas, you are reserving for yourself what God wants and deserves to have.

I would say that the second, reserving to yourself the right to flout God’s will, even tho now expressed only in small things, is grave matter, the first of the 3 criteria for mortal sin. The other 2 are full knowledge and full consent.

If you fall into the second camp, then it is up to you to decide what you will do.
An explanation: a priest can not absolve a sin if there is no purpose of amendment. If a man confesses ongoing adultery but plans to keep his mistress, the priest cannot absolve that sin. Confession is to help us become better people, not feel less guilty about what sins we plan to continue to commit.
Here’s hoping you are in the first camp, or that if you are in the second, that you will decide to change for the New Year.
 
It makes sense. There are times you don’t want to do God’s will or say your will be done. It’s only natural. I wouldn’t say it’s a sin. Just imperfect because you aren’t in complete union with God

Let’s say your family member has a serious illness. You may not want to say your will be done if God decides to take that family member away. Instead you try to beg God to save your family member

You don’t want bad things to happen and you u think certain things will make you happy. You are afraid God’s will might conflict with what you think will make you happy and so you pray for what you want rather than accept his will

I used to hear that while God may want you to say be a priest, if you decided to get married instead you wouldn’t necessarily be committing a sin, you’d just be happier and it would be easier to get to heaven if you became a priest and followed God’s will. I also heard Mary was under no obligation to say yes when God asked her to be the mother of God and that there would have been no sin if she had said no. It’s called free will. Directly doing the opposite of God’s will, the negative- would be sin. But it might not always be necessary to go the extra step even if it’s God’s will. It might be God’s will that you take this job over another but I doubt there is sin in taking the other.
 
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David_Rudmin said:
@(name removed by moderator) - So where exactly does it say in the Bible or official Church Teaching that one should love God more than oneself?
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Catechism of the Catholic Church
398 In that sin man preferred himself to God and by that very act scorned him. He chose himself over and against God, against the requirements of his creaturely status and therefore against his own good. Constituted in a state of holiness, man was destined to be fully “divinized” by God in glory. Seduced by the devil, he wanted to “be like God”, but “without God, before God, and not in accordance with God”. 279

279 St. Maximus the Confessor, Ambigua : PG 91,1156C; cf. Gen 3:5.
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