Successful Latin Ordinary Form Experiment!

[TrueLight]

Yes, you are entitled to it. And those of us who don’t prefer it are similarly entitled to our own opinion. And the Church allows both.

Okay. And did I say in my couple of sentences that you weren’t?

I think you and jwinch are bringing baggage from other threads and decided to jump on me. Since I didn’t come in this thread to debate, I’m out of here.

Ora congrats again.

 

[MissRose73]

I attended 2 Assumption BVM holy day Masses each celebrated by a different priest, and both were done in the Ordinary Form in Latin with the exception of the readings, the homily, and the intercessions with times where the priest has his back to the people. I did not find it hard to know some of the responses and follow along as I occasionally attend Extraordinary Form Masses. I found the Masses to be reverently done, and wished my diocese offered them as I traveled to the shrine in a group setting.

 

[codefro]

When I traveled to Brazil, I heard Mass in Portuguese and had no problem with it. Heck, I was in Brazil after all. However, when I am in America I prefer to hear Mass in a language that I speak and understand without burying my head in a book through the entire thing. I would rather be lost on the rare occasion that I travel, then every week.

Suggesting that it is only proper to have the Mass in Latin is the same to me as suggesting it is only proper to have the Bible, Papal Encyclicals, or the Catechism in Latin. I understand the importance for Church documents in having a language which does not change for official use in teachings, encyclicals, etc. But, I believe the Church needs to meet the people where they are, not where they aren’t. In addition, I understand your comment about reverence in the liturgy, but that, in my opinion, is not about the language. It is a far deeper issue. Go to a Anglican Use Mass sometime and tell me that they don’t have a reverent liturgy. Go to a Benedictine Monastery when they celebrate the OF and see the same thing. If you do, it becomes apparent that you can have chant or other beautiful reverent music, incense, beautiful vestments, sung prayer, meaty homilies, etc. and have the whole thing in English. Its not the language which equals reverence, its the manner in which it is celebrated.

I would have no problem in seeing an increase in the frequency and availability of the EF of the Mass if there is high demand for it. And I have no problem with seeing an increase in the OF of the Mass in Latin, if there is demand for it. However, I again just ask that others give myself, and the many others who feel the same way that I do, the same courtesy. And I reject the idea that reverence=Latin.

Funny you mention Anglican Use. I have been almost weekly attending a new Anglican Ordinariate in my county. I have been discerning if i wish to register with theor parish While it is beautiful, I am still leaning towards just attending a Latin EF Mass

 

[ProVobis]

Instead people just space off into their own private prayers as if they weren’t even there.

You can’t assume that. Actuosa participatio covers a lot of area but being there as a witness to what’s going on seems to be a worthwhile thing on a Sunday morning, I would think.

 

[jwinch2]

Okay. And did I say in my couple of sentences that you weren’t?

I think you and jwinch are bringing baggage from other threads and decided to jump on me. Since I didn’t come in this thread to debate, I’m out of here.

I can’t speak for others, but that is not an accurate portrayal of my response. I was responding to your post and had nothing else on my mind when I clicked on the link to this thread other than seeing what Michel had to say.

As I stated above, I do not believe that you really wish to deny many, including me, the mass that they prefer. But, that was the impression given, to me at least, particularly in your following up with the “so what if I want all OF Masses in Latin….” statement. If all OF Masses were in Latin, there would be zero OF Masses in the vernacular. I find you wishing that were so to be problematic, particularly in the light of the support that many on here who do not prefer the EF of the Mass themselves, to those who do.

That is the genesis of my response, nothing more.

 

[jwinch2]

Funny you mention Anglican Use. I have been almost weekly attending a new Anglican Ordinariate in my county. I have been discerning if i wish to register with theor parish While it is beautiful, I am still leaning towards just attending a Latin EF Mass

I’ve been to one Anglican Use Mass, which was beautiful. I didn’t get the complete treatment because on the day we went, there was as substitute priest who was not trained in that particular rite. What took place was a sort of hybrid of the OF and the Anglican Use. It was still quite reverent and beautiful and I enjoyed how they did communion with the priest giving the body and the deacon giving the blood right down the line. It took a bit longer, but the music was so beautiful that I really didn’t mind at all.

 

[codefro]

I’ve been to one Anglican Use Mass, which was beautiful. I didn’t get the complete treatment because on the day we went, there was as substitute priest who was not trained in that particular rite. What took place was a sort of hybrid of the OF and the Anglican Use. It was still quite reverent and beautiful and I enjoyed how they did communion with the priest giving the body and the deacon giving the blood right down the line. It took a bit longer, but the music was so beautiful that I really didn’t mind at all.

Their music is beautiful. I am grateful for their beautiful singers.

 

[curlycool89]

Okay. And did I say in my couple of sentences that you weren’t?

Not at all. I just wanted to write it for clarification.

You can’t assume that. Actuosa participatio covers a lot of area but being there as a witness to what’s going on seems to be a worthwhile thing on a Sunday morning, I would think.

Then they’re like the audience at a production. Or they’re people who happen to be in the same room as a priest who happens to be saying Mass.