hi Meedo, glad you’re here since you’re Egyptian. Hala Serhan , in her show, had a cheikh from Al-azhar. It’s not my bubbles, it is a hot topic among Muslims, and data can be given from tradition and explanations about the act, which made Hala Serhan, in fact, cry for help against such teachings from the Al-Azhar cheikh.Hello,
Muhammed didn’t order women to breastfeed men in order to become a mahram. He ordered A woman to give A MAN some of her breastmilk for him to drink in order to become a mahram. There is no mentionning of a breastfeeding act.
This case was specific to a certain woman and a certain man . The general rule is that no matter how much breastfeeding or drinking breastmilk can make anybody a mahram above the age of 2 years old . This is dictated by the Quran itself . Ilsamic Scholars in overwhelming majority agree on this opinion. Ofcourse there are people who have their wierd opinions. But they are in the very minority.
Hope that clarified .
I am sorry to burst your bubble
Yes i know. He is the Mufti for the Arab Republic of Egypt and he is a member of Al Azhar. And i as i said in my response above , he is opposed by the overwhelming majority of islamic scholars within and outside al Azhar. He isnt really that great scholar he is just bieng appointed to a prominent post because he generally approves the government biddings. It not a hot topic amongst muslims , its a hot topic in the muslim media . because they think he is wierd.n So dont worry , muslims arent doing that anyrtime soon. people generally discuss it to laugh at him. That what happens when teh Dictatorship controls religious bodies.hi Meedo, glad you’re here since you’re Egyptian. Hala Serhan , in her show, had a cheikh from Al-azhar. It’s not my bubbles, it is a hot topic among Muslims, and data can be given from tradition and explanations about the act, which made Hala Serhan, in fact, cry for help against such teachings from the Al-Azhar cheikh.
The fear wasnt out of how the breastfeeding happened. The fear is because there is a Quranic verse that clearly states that the effective Mahrum status cannot be applied unless the person to be fed is 2 years old or younger. The sahaba generally were very careful about narrating from the prophet. They want to make sure they narate the correct thing. having this Quranic verse in Mind and only hearing it from one source it was clear that Ibn Abu Mulaika wanted to confirm his understanding and confirst the hadeeth if it would set an exception from teh established ruling as the Quranic verse displayed.Hi Kad,
this would be a very logical answer if the cheikh happened to be the only person who understood as such. But he is not, and based on sound tradition. What you gave is a the version of Muhammad Ibn Umar, or best known as Al-Wakidi who is notorious for thousands of false hadith.
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon himy, saying to 'A’isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A’isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah’s Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a beard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hadhaifa. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3428)
umm Salamah wasnt weaning children and so had no milk to offer which means Aisha’s advise was not about putting milk in the cup but actual breast suckling.
Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he said: suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said:** I REFRAINED FROM (narrating this hadith) FOR A YEAR OR SO ON ACCOUNT OF FEAR.** I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards. He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3426
Here was a man who was afraid to narrate what he had heard and decided to keep this story to himself for more than a year. Was he afraid fom the idea of putting some milk in a cup?
Well the man is pretty much the only person who understands it as such (unless you’d like to provide evidence that this is not the case?), hence it creating such widespread backlash and denunciation in Egypt.
indeed there are many…i personally heard of many on tv but you surely are asking for specific scholars and i will provide names tomorrow hopefully cuz it takes some time.
But if you want scholars saying that fosterage through breastfeeding is only valid before the infant reaches two years old. Then all 4 schools of jurisprudence and their founding Imams (Abu Hanifa, Malik ibn Anas, Al-Shafi’i and Ahmad ibn Hanbal); as well as Umar ibn Al-Khattab, Ali ibn Abi Talib, Ibn 'Abbas, Abu Huraira, Ash-Shaybani, and no doubt there are many many more who I’m not aware of held this view; as well as the vast majority of scholars in modern day Egypt who denounced this man for making such claims. You’ll need some very strong evidence to convince anyone that all these people were wrong and this pseudo-Sheikh appointed to support the Egyptian government is correct.
from what i read, there is a difference between breast feeding infants and adult suckling. Aisha had no children. She did not breast feed them, yet the hadith says she suckled adults. Unless she had milk, how did she suckle them ?
That is true for the ‘’ Linguistic meaning of the word’’ not the legislative islamic meaning.Abu Zaid said, “Al Murdi’a’ المُرْضِعة (the nursing woman) is the one who nurses her child with her breast in his mouth.”
Al-Rida with a diacritical mark above the “R” is pronounced "Rada or a diacritical mark underneath the “R” is pronounced “Rida’a”. Both Rada’a and Rida’a in the Arabic language IS A NOUN FOR SUCKING A BREAST, whether it was sucking the breast of a human female OR THE BREAST OF AN ANIMAL OR THE LIKE. So it is said in the (Arabic) language of someone WHO SUCKLED THE UDDER OF A COW or the teet of a sheep THAT HE NURSED (rada’a) FROM IT. **However, if a person milked the animals and drank the milk, THEN IT IS NOT SAID THAT HE NURSED (radi’a) **and it is not necessary in the (Arabic) language that the person nursing must be a child.
this is the translation of الفقه على المذاهب الأربعة. الإصدار 1.28 - لعبد الرحمن الجزيري).
or Jurisprudence According to the Four Schools of Thought" written by Abdel Rahman Al-Jaziri:
i read this, thats why i am asking:Aisha didnt breastfeed anybody. The status of Mahram can as well be maintained if a relative of Aishas breastfeeds a Kid. For example, if Aisha’s Sister or Niece Breastfeeds an Infant then he becomes mahram on Aisha herself . So Aisha doesnt have to have children in order for her to have infants become her mahrams. The hadeeths doesnt say that Aisha fed any adults.
can you please explain why? and does this apply to blood transfer as well?For example, if Aisha’s Sister or Niece Breastfeeds an Infant then he becomes mahram on Aisha herself
The first part of your post i dont really understand ! can you edxplain?i read this, thats why i am asking:
As for the second part of the narrative, it seems only a conspiracy against the Mother of the believers. Firstly, as you have correctly mentioned that being a childless woman, it is highly unlikely for her to suckle a child. Secondly, the white lie entailed in the narrative becomes apparent merely on the grounds that not even a single person can be named with any degree of certainty from amongst the Muslims who could be claimed to have actually been nursed by the Mother of the believers. The most that can be said is that the Mother of the Believers may, in contrast to the other wives of the Prophet (pbuh), have actually mistakenly generalized the advice given by the Prophet (pbuh) to Abu Hudaifah’s wife. This opinion of the Mother of the Believers gave her opponents a chance to take advantage of the situation by incorporating, in the narrative, the fable of her nursing all those whom she desired to permit entry into her chamber.
understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=2094
Seems the problem is in the hadith. People are questioning them because indeed, they give the impression that it is breast-feeding when they know it can’t be morally.
can you please explain why? and does this apply to blood transfer as well?
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I quoted an Islamic link where the hadith is questioned exactly because of the bad impression it gives. In other words, the problem lies in the hadith that gives this impression, that’s why the fatwa was issued.The first part of your post i dont really understand ! can you edxplain?
why?No that doesnt apply to blood transfusion.