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Jan_Bolbot
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Well, I won’t make excuses for the sins of my prep school days! 
Also, there are lots of good Catholics at both SJU & St. Bens, but…
But the general atmosphere is more in the range of Notre Dame or St. Thomas (MN). Being Catholic is a viable option, like being a member of the soccer team, campus Democrats, or the gay pride group. In other words, unlike some secular schools where being Catholic is something you keep secret, you can be openly Catholic at these schools and you won’t be harassed. You also won’t be approved. So, if you want to organize a petition drive against gay marriage–good luck! The administration will run the other way if not openly denounce you for intolerance. I know some of the faculty–good people, decent scholars but let’s just say Catholicism is not their favorite religion.
In other words, the atmosphere is not Catholic. It is one option among many. This quite different from a college in which Catholicism is built into the core identity.
Take a look at this or any Catholic college website and click the “about” tab. Does it say “in the Benedictine tradition” or “in the spirit of Franciscan service”. These are code words, meaning “don’t take it too seriously, wink, wink.” Do they list a “committment to social justice” but you have to look hard for the words “pro-life”? Run a search on the college’s website using terms like GLBT or pro-choice or pro-life and see what you come up with. Who have they invited to campus as an honored speaker? Do they have a prominent statement about being “inclusive” and “tolerant”? These are all higher ed code words.
Yes, St. John’s is way better than Georgetown where students had to fight to keep crosses in the classroom. The surrounding region is culturally conservative which is a brake on some of the more extreme tendencies of the faculty. It is okay to be Catholic there, just like being gay or having purple hair. I love the place and I wish it well, I just wish it kept its institutional Catholicism intact.
The problems of Catholic higher ed are well known. Caveat empetor!
JB
Also, there are lots of good Catholics at both SJU & St. Bens, but…
But the general atmosphere is more in the range of Notre Dame or St. Thomas (MN). Being Catholic is a viable option, like being a member of the soccer team, campus Democrats, or the gay pride group. In other words, unlike some secular schools where being Catholic is something you keep secret, you can be openly Catholic at these schools and you won’t be harassed. You also won’t be approved. So, if you want to organize a petition drive against gay marriage–good luck! The administration will run the other way if not openly denounce you for intolerance. I know some of the faculty–good people, decent scholars but let’s just say Catholicism is not their favorite religion.
In other words, the atmosphere is not Catholic. It is one option among many. This quite different from a college in which Catholicism is built into the core identity.
Take a look at this or any Catholic college website and click the “about” tab. Does it say “in the Benedictine tradition” or “in the spirit of Franciscan service”. These are code words, meaning “don’t take it too seriously, wink, wink.” Do they list a “committment to social justice” but you have to look hard for the words “pro-life”? Run a search on the college’s website using terms like GLBT or pro-choice or pro-life and see what you come up with. Who have they invited to campus as an honored speaker? Do they have a prominent statement about being “inclusive” and “tolerant”? These are all higher ed code words.
Yes, St. John’s is way better than Georgetown where students had to fight to keep crosses in the classroom. The surrounding region is culturally conservative which is a brake on some of the more extreme tendencies of the faculty. It is okay to be Catholic there, just like being gay or having purple hair. I love the place and I wish it well, I just wish it kept its institutional Catholicism intact.
The problems of Catholic higher ed are well known. Caveat empetor!
JB