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kkollwitz
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There’s an Arabic saying I like:
Eat for yourself; dress for others.
Eat for yourself; dress for others.
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Rejoice_Always
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So that’s what is going on! Clothing will tell you about whether or not they are really Catholics! See someone wearing the wrong shoes, and you can see into their soul and know exactly what kind of Catholic would wear those kinds of shoes.
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Hound_Dog
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To be sure Jesus is there always. The reference is towards Jesus, as a man were to show up. If you dress shabbily and have better clothing to wear to mass and wouldn’t wear it to meet Jesus in person shows you don’t have respect IMO.
One thing Protestant denominations have going for them is that they dress to go to their services. I doubt there are any skimpy shorts or ragged stained t-shirts in their pews
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Laetus
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Pardon me? Your comment makes absolutely no sense.
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Rejoice_Always
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I’m sure the Protestants really see that as a sign of admiration.
Where do y’all get these crazy generalizations? Very entertaining!
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Rejoice_Always
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Probably not! Happens all the time. Don’t get too worked up about it. I’ll type more slowly in the future.
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Laetus
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True. If I knew where to buy a religious habit in a color like khaki (something I have never seen any religious actually wear) I would buy it and keep in my truck. Sunday morning get up, shorts, t-shirt and Birkies. Get to church, get the old habit out of the zip-loc bag and WHAM! you’re magically presentable. I might have to look into that. Make up my own order.No doubt about it!
But he couldn’t wear now what he wore then without getting the eye from from our Holy Haberdasher Hounds sniffing around our parishes.
Maybe the Order of St. Eligius or something like that.
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Laetus
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It’s not your typing, it’s your thought processing and your ability to express them.
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Rejoice_Always
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I know there’s no order, but I looked him up!
Wow! His attire is definitely not CAF-approved. I can only imagine the threads around here about such a man showing up at Mass today.
At first, he was used to wear gold and gems on his clothes, having belts composed of gold and gems and elegantly jeweled purses, linens covered with red metal and golden sacs hemmed with gold and all of the most precious fabrics including all of silk. But all of this was but fleeting ostentation from the beginning and beneath he wore a hairshirt next to his flesh and, as he proceeded to perfection, he gave the ornaments for the needs of the poor. Then you would see him, whom you had once seen gleaming with the weight of the gold and gems that covered him, go covered in the vilest clothing with a rope for a belt.
(from the Wiki article on St Eligius)
Of course, though his clothes were vile, they were probably still modest.
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MissRose73
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I’d much rather see someone wear a golf/polo style shirt and khaki shorts with a decent pair of shorts that go to the knees with a decent pair of shoes compared to the spaghetti strapped shirt and short shorts (or short skirts) that barely cover the backside with a noisy pair of casual flip flops. No one is asking for people to show up to Mass dressed up like my grandmother’s generation and before always did but we need to show respect for God’s House by dressing decently and modestly.
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Laetus
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St, Eligius = St. Elsewhere = Old TV show.I know there’s no order, but I looked him up!
Wow! His attire is definitely not CAF-approved. I can only imagine the threads around here about such a man showing up at Mass today.
At first, he was used to wear gold and gems on his clothes, having belts composed of gold and gems and elegantly jeweled purses, linens covered with red metal and golden sacs hemmed with gold and all of the most precious fabrics including all of silk. But all of this was but fleeting ostentation from the beginning and beneath he wore a hairshirt next to his flesh and, as he proceeded to perfection, he gave the ornaments for the needs of the poor. Then you would see him, whom you had once seen gleaming with the weight of the gold and gems that covered him, go covered in the vilest clothing with a rope for a belt.
(from the Wiki article on St Eligius)
Of course, though his clothes were vile, they were probably still modest.
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austenbosten
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All I know is people 80 years ago during the Depression couldn’t afford to feed themselves at times, but they still were able to wear dresses and suits to church. I hear all this (oh but they can’t afford it) baloney…I could understand if we were talking about Africa or America 80 years ago when stock brokers were digging through garbage cans looking for peach pits, but not now.
Truth is many people just have no respect or sense of modesty and are just plain lazy. Sure they can’t afford to dress modestly but they can afford an iPhone. People’s priorities are messed up.
So call me a clothing crusader, or this blah blah…I ain’t a clothing crusader as much as I’m a cultural conservative. I think people just have little respect in society period, not to mention modesty…it goes farther than just dress in church.
But either way I’ve said my 2 bits.
Truth is many people just have no respect or sense of modesty and are just plain lazy. Sure they can’t afford to dress modestly but they can afford an iPhone. People’s priorities are messed up.
So call me a clothing crusader, or this blah blah…I ain’t a clothing crusader as much as I’m a cultural conservative. I think people just have little respect in society period, not to mention modesty…it goes farther than just dress in church.
But either way I’ve said my 2 bits.
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MissBorgia
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capri pants…MAYBE some longer cut shorts, no bare arms or shoulders for me and certainly no flipflops. Father T says he hates when people dress for mass like it is the beach,
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Tantum_ergo
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What it comes down to is that people have distinct preferences for a particular style, whether it’s ‘dressing casual’ or "dressing appropriate to the occasion’.
Unfortunately some (not all) on either side****, in order to justify themselves and their approach, paint the other side******** in extremist and even offensive terms. And when somebody takes offense at **that,**and responds, the first person is then ‘offended’ back, and the whole conversation degenerates into the tired cliche-drawn playground cries of:
“You’re nothing but the clothing police, uptight, domineering, old-fashioned and hateful. You’re not the boss of me and I’ll do what I like because MY approach is better than yours, and therefore I’m better than you”. . .
and
“You’re nothing but lazy slobs, careless, slipshod, rebellious, worldly, and hateful. Your attitude is selfish and I will continue to point out that MY approach is better than yours, and therefore you should change.”
When, if the truth were told, people in both groups would probably be indistinguishable from each other in almost every given situation. It’s just that Charlie Casual thinks that people would find his attire ‘too casual’ according to what he thinks**** Donnie Dressier would want, so Charlie fights a little dirty and even espouses as ‘appropriate’ stuff he would not wear and, if approached by Melanie Medium, he would indeed express as 'ok for the playground but not Church."
And Donnie Dressier thinks that people would find his attire “Too dressy” according to what he thinks Charlie Casual wants, so Donnie also fights a little dirty and espouses as appropriate stuff he would not wear and, if approached by Melanie Medium, he would indeed express as “OK for a formal dance but not Church.”
Sadly, even if people read this and find the truth in it, no doubt people will feel they have to say,
“well maybe that’s true of SOME but my **personal experience ****** is that the people of group A are really the nasty clothing police anyway”. . .
Followed quickly by another chiming in, "well, it is my personal experience that group B really are slobs. . .
Still, if even one person refrains in future from making the tired cliches regarding either group because this post has opened his or her eyes to a different point of view, it would be worth it.
Unfortunately some (not all) on either side****, in order to justify themselves and their approach, paint the other side******** in extremist and even offensive terms. And when somebody takes offense at **that,**and responds, the first person is then ‘offended’ back, and the whole conversation degenerates into the tired cliche-drawn playground cries of:
“You’re nothing but the clothing police, uptight, domineering, old-fashioned and hateful. You’re not the boss of me and I’ll do what I like because MY approach is better than yours, and therefore I’m better than you”. . .
and
“You’re nothing but lazy slobs, careless, slipshod, rebellious, worldly, and hateful. Your attitude is selfish and I will continue to point out that MY approach is better than yours, and therefore you should change.”
When, if the truth were told, people in both groups would probably be indistinguishable from each other in almost every given situation. It’s just that Charlie Casual thinks that people would find his attire ‘too casual’ according to what he thinks**** Donnie Dressier would want, so Charlie fights a little dirty and even espouses as ‘appropriate’ stuff he would not wear and, if approached by Melanie Medium, he would indeed express as 'ok for the playground but not Church."
And Donnie Dressier thinks that people would find his attire “Too dressy” according to what he thinks Charlie Casual wants, so Donnie also fights a little dirty and espouses as appropriate stuff he would not wear and, if approached by Melanie Medium, he would indeed express as “OK for a formal dance but not Church.”
Sadly, even if people read this and find the truth in it, no doubt people will feel they have to say,
“well maybe that’s true of SOME but my **personal experience ****** is that the people of group A are really the nasty clothing police anyway”. . .
Followed quickly by another chiming in, "well, it is my personal experience that group B really are slobs. . .
Still, if even one person refrains in future from making the tired cliches regarding either group because this post has opened his or her eyes to a different point of view, it would be worth it.
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Mudboots
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It’s frustrating when I have to remind my son to focus on the Altar rather than the cute girl wearing what my young daughters refer to as “showies”. I know all people have their reasons for wearing what they wear et cetera, but I explain it my children like this:
“We are going to Mass where God is not just present, but where Jesus will offer us His body, blood, soul and divinity in the most humble and vulnerable of means. Let’s dress just one notch up from our day to day life.”
“We are going to Mass where God is not just present, but where Jesus will offer us His body, blood, soul and divinity in the most humble and vulnerable of means. Let’s dress just one notch up from our day to day life.”
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Jeanne_S
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I can appreciate that not everyone is able to dress to the nines for Sunday Mass.However,I think it is important to wear the best you have.Remember the phrase"Sunday Best"?
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poirot
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Our priest gave a very good homily about this today. I was so happy since it’s been bothering me how people are not dressing appropriately for Sunday Mass. It’s very timely since today is Corpus Christi. Since Jesus is really present in the Eucharist, we should dress modestly even though it’s hot (it’s 30C where I am). Our priest also touched on a few things: people shouldn’t be chewing gum in church, it’s good to kneel during communion (we have a kneeler near the altar), and people shouldn’t just leave after communion since it’s like leaving a party without saying thank you to your host. I think it’s good if more priests preached about this. It’s all common sense to me but maybe people just don’t know what’s appropriate attire?? I mean if we’re meeting the Pope or the Queen, I don’t think people would be wearing shorts or tank tops. I thanked the priest after Mass for the homily and I think he was a bit surprised that someone was actually listening. My confessor told me that I shouldn’t obsess about this and just pray about it, but it gets me thinking how Protestants are dressing so nicely for church when they don’t even have the real Eucharist.
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TheRealJuliane
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The problem with the “come as you are” attitude, is that the slide downward begins almost immediately. We attend one parish where the priest is VERY relaxed about dress. He would NEVER say anything about the clothing people wear to Mass. And sure enough, people show up in all sorts of inappropriate clothing, especially at the vigil Mass. I mean, seriously? You can’t put on at least a clean pair of long pants? For 1 hour? If you have somewhere else to go afterward, bring your summer clothes in the car and change in the bathroom!
I think if the attitude is
then pretty soon, no one even considers what they are wearing or how they are acting in Jesus’ house. Yesterday I saw 2 people who had just taken communion, chatting away as they walked away from the EM! Like they were out shopping! 
(And I was in the line to get communion myself, lest you think I was paying more attention than I should have been.
The other parish is much more formal and the priest puts admonitions in the bulletin as well as talks about proper attire from the pulpit. My own clothing is probably not quite up to the standard but I try to go to one of their more casual Masses.
It’s not that we are being snobbish in any way, or trying to chase people out of church. But my goodness! Do people think that ANYTHING is fine in God’s house? What about just going naked?
I think if the attitude is
then pretty soon, no one even considers what they are wearing or how they are acting in Jesus’ house. Yesterday I saw 2 people who had just taken communion, chatting away as they walked away from the EM! Like they were out shopping! (And I was in the line to get communion myself, lest you think I was paying more attention than I should have been.The other parish is much more formal and the priest puts admonitions in the bulletin as well as talks about proper attire from the pulpit. My own clothing is probably not quite up to the standard but I try to go to one of their more casual Masses.
It’s not that we are being snobbish in any way, or trying to chase people out of church. But my goodness! Do people think that ANYTHING is fine in God’s house?
What about just going naked?
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The_Curt_Jester
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I had one Catholic tell me that God would have absolutely no problem with that. It’s the people around who would have the problem.Do people think that ANYTHING is fine in God’s house?
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severus68
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Well said. Christ sees us as we are, inside. Just to add re the usual comment on threads like this on how well we would dress if we were meeting the Queen or the President. Well, people come up with those rules, somehow I do not see Christ bothering about such rules.
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