Sunday Mass obligation fulfilled with wedding Mass?

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Does anyone know if a Sunday Mass obligation can ever be fulfilled with a wedding Mass? I have a Saturday Catholic wedding to go to in the near future. The wedding Mass starts at 5:30pm. Is this also considered a Saturday vigil Mass that would fulfill my Sunday obligation? Thanks in advance for anyone’s response.
 
Does anyone know if a Sunday Mass obligation can ever be fulfilled with a wedding Mass? I have a Saturday Catholic wedding to go to in the near future. The wedding Mass starts at 5:30pm. Is this also considered a Saturday vigil Mass that would fulfill my Sunday obligation? Thanks in advance for anyone’s response.
Yes, if the Rite of Marriage takes place during the normal Saturday evening parish Mass scheduled at that parish.
 
Yes, if the Rite of Marriage takes place during the normal Saturday evening parish Mass scheduled at that parish.
Do some weddings actually take place during the “normal Saturday evening parish Mass?” Nice thought, but I’ve never encountered it (not to say it doesn’t happen.)

However, the OP is more concerned with his particular situation; he is fine, according to every reference I have found. The following is typical, from the Diocese of Davenport:

**A NOTE ON THE OBLIGATION TO ASSIST AT MASS ON SUNDAYS AND HOLY DAYS **

"The obligation to attend Mass applies to the day, not the Mass being celebrated or the texts used. (emphasis mine.) For Sundays and Solemnities, the liturgical day runs from 4:00 p.m. of the calendar day before to midnight of the day itself – a period of 32 hours.

For example, on a weekend when Ritual Masses are allowed, attendance at a Wedding Mass after 4pm on Saturday would fulfill the Sunday obligation. Likewise, if a parish celebrated the Ritual Mass of Confirmation on Sunday, the obligation would be fulfilled."

Here’s another link: rpinet.com/ml/2507bi2.html

This same question has been addressed in the “Ask an Apologist” forum on these boards.

OP, I think you will find that you’re OK (up there in Massachusetts, my home state!)

God bless!
 
Do some weddings actually take place during the “normal Saturday evening parish Mass?” Nice thought, but I’ve never encountered it (not to say it doesn’t happen.)

However, the OP is more concerned with his particular situation; he is fine, according to every reference I have found. The following is typical, from the Diocese of Davenport:

**A NOTE ON THE OBLIGATION TO ASSIST AT MASS ON SUNDAYS AND HOLY DAYS **

"The obligation to attend Mass applies to the day, not the Mass being celebrated or the texts used. (emphasis mine.) For Sundays and Solemnities, the liturgical day runs from 4:00 p.m. of the calendar day before to midnight of the day itself – a period of 32 hours.

For example, on a weekend when Ritual Masses are allowed, attendance at a Wedding Mass after 4pm on Saturday would fulfill the Sunday obligation. Likewise, if a parish celebrated the Ritual Mass of Confirmation on Sunday, the obligation would be fulfilled."

Here’s another link: rpinet.com/ml/2507bi2.html

This same question has been addressed in the “Ask an Apologist” forum on these boards.

OP, I think you will find that you’re OK (up there in Massachusetts, my home state!)

God bless!
The link speaks of norms for Wedding a Mass, Ok. There are also norms for a Sunday and Holy Day Mass. In the documents for the Lectionary there is a line that says that for Sundays and Holy Days and the Vigils for them. The proper readings for that day, found in the Lectionary must be used.
 
The link speaks of norms for Wedding a Mass, Ok. There are also norms for a Sunday and Holy Day Mass. In the documents for the Lectionary there is a line that says that for Sundays and Holy Days and the Vigils for them. The proper readings for that day, found in the Lectionary must be used.
Yes, that has to do with what Mass is celebrated. You cannot celebrate a nuptial Mass with its attendant readings and prayers and claim it is the vigil for the following day.

BUT: Fullfillment of the obligation to assist at Mass is not tied to the particular Mass celebrated; Rather it is tied to the *timing *of the celebration of *any *Mass in a Catholic rite.

Upshot: Yes, a nuptial Mass celebrated appropriately late on Saturday fulfills the Sunday obligation.

tee
 
Yes, that has to do with what Mass is celebrated. You cannot celebrate a nuptial Mass with its attendant readings and prayers and claim it is the vigil for the following day.

BUT: Fullfillment of the obligation to assist at Mass is not tied to the particular Mass celebrated; Rather it is tied to the *timing *of the celebration of *any *Mass in a Catholic rite.

Upshot: Yes, a nuptial Mass celebrated appropriately late on Saturday fulfills the Sunday obligation.

tee
Yup 🙂

Sometimes things just aren’t as complicated as people try to make them.
 
From the Sacramentary Ritual Mass IV Wedding Mass [1974 but I don’t think it has changed]:
. . .If the marriage is celebrated on a Sunday or solemnity, the Mass of the day is used with the nuptial blessing and, where appropriate, the special final blessing. . . .When the wedding Mass may not be used (during the Easter triduum or on Christmas, Epiphany, Ascension, Pentecost, Corpus Christi, or solemnities which are holy days of obligation) on of the readings for marriage may be chose. On the Sundays of the Christmas season and on Sundays in ordinary time, in Masses which are not parish Masses, the wedding Mass may be said without change. . . .
 
From the Sacramentary Ritual Mass IV Wedding Mass [1974 but I don’t think it has changed]:
The OP wasn’t so much interested in what readings, etc., would be used…he just wanted to know if a Nuptial Mass on Saturday at 5:30 pm fulfilled his Sunday obligation. It does.
 
Yes, that has to do with what Mass is celebrated. You cannot celebrate a nuptial Mass with its attendant readings and prayers and claim it is the vigil for the following day.

BUT: Fullfillment of the obligation to assist at Mass is not tied to the particular Mass celebrated; Rather it is tied to the *timing *of the celebration of *any *Mass in a Catholic rite.

Upshot: Yes, a nuptial Mass celebrated appropriately late on Saturday fulfills the Sunday obligation.

tee
That’s correct. A Mass celebrated on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary Time (from midnight to midnight) or in the evening of the preceeding Saturday after 4pm, must use the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time. A wedding Mass on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time would be a Mass for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time, with the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time and the Rite of Marriage inserted into the Mass.
 
That’s correct. A Mass celebrated on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary Time (from midnight to midnight) or in the evening of the preceeding Saturday after 4pm, must use the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time. A wedding Mass on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time would be a Mass for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time, with the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time and the Rite of Marriage inserted into the Mass.
That doesn’t quite jive with everything I’ve found, with regard to readings. This is from the Diocese of Rockville, but is representative:

"Ritual Masses (Sacraments)
  1. On Sundays and Holydays of Obligation, no ritual Masses (e.g., Funeral Masses) can be celebrated. However, the readings and prayers of the Mass of the day may be used and the prayers of commendation may be used.
  2. However, on most Sundays of the year the nuptial Mass can be celebrated. The exceptions remain the Easter Triduum, Christmas, Epiphany, Ascension, Pentecost, the Body and Blood of Christ, or solemnities which are holy days of obligation. **On these days one of the readings for marriage may be chosen. On the Sundays of the Christmas season and on Sundays in ordinary time, in Masses which are not parish Masses, the wedding Mass may be celebrated without change. ** When a marriage is celebrated during Advent or other days of penance, the parish priest should advise the couple to take into consideration the special nature of these times."
Do dioceses vary in their instructions with regard to wedding (nuptial) Masses taking place after 4 pm Saturday? Hmmm…
 
That doesn’t quite jive with everything I’ve found, with regard to readings. This is from the Diocese of Rockville, but is representative:

"Ritual Masses (Sacraments)
  1. On Sundays and Holydays of Obligation, no ritual Masses (e.g., Funeral Masses) can be celebrated. However, the readings and prayers of the Mass of the day may be used and the prayers of commendation may be used.
  2. However, on most Sundays of the year the nuptial Mass can be celebrated. The exceptions remain the Easter Triduum, Christmas, Epiphany, Ascension, Pentecost, the Body and Blood of Christ, or solemnities which are holy days of obligation. **On these days one of the readings for marriage may be chosen. On the Sundays of the Christmas season and on Sundays in ordinary time, in Masses which are not parish Masses, the wedding Mass may be celebrated without change. **When a marriage is celebrated during Advent or other days of penance, the parish priest should advise the couple to take into consideration the special nature of these times."
Do dioceses vary in their instructions with regard to wedding (nuptial) Masses taking place after 4 pm Saturday? Hmmm…
Each Bishop has to consider the situation in his diocese and may make exceptions because of priest shortages. I just returned from a trip last week and the area I visited almost every parish is covered by a priest that has two parishes some an hour apart. Others have closer parishes but cover three.
 
Each Bishop has to consider the situation in his diocese and may make exceptions because of priest shortages. I just returned from a trip last week and the area I visited almost every parish is covered by a priest that has two parishes some an hour apart. Others have closer parishes but cover three.
I guess we should consider ourselves fortunate here, as many parishes still have two or more priests.

I imagine the subject of weddings taking place at regularly scheduled parish Masses might come up more often where there are priest shortages, simply out of necessity. (Logistical nightmare, I would imagine, trying to attend to regular parish needs and accommodate demanding brides with only so many priests or deacons to go around…)

God bless!
 
Do some weddings actually take place during the “normal Saturday evening parish Mass?” Nice thought, but I’ve never encountered it (not to say it doesn’t happen.)

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Before we had all the ridiculous baggage and ME ME ME any MY MY MY wedding hub bub nuptial vows were not terribly uncommon during the regular weekend Mass. My mother told me that it was the norm in her diocese for the Marriage to take place during the regular Sunday Mass. I am not convinced it happened everywhere but it was FAR more common than it is now…today we get the “oh theres a baptism today” wheras in the past people mightve said “oh theres a wedding today”…but keep in mind this was before all the the ridiculousities and the decadence extravaganzas that sometimes shove God out of the “ceremony”.
 
Yes, IF the Nuptial Mass takes place after 4 pm Saturday (the earliest that a “vigil” Mass can occur) it will fulfill your Sunday obligation. Here is a link:

beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19455_1.html

I do believe this is accurate information.
Do some weddings actually take place during the “normal Saturday evening parish Mass?” Nice thought, but I’ve never encountered it (not to say it doesn’t happen.)

However, the OP is more concerned with his particular situation; he is fine, according to every reference I have found. The following is typical, from the Diocese of Davenport:

**A NOTE ON THE OBLIGATION TO ASSIST AT MASS ON SUNDAYS AND HOLY DAYS **

"The obligation to attend Mass applies to the day, not the Mass being celebrated or the texts used. (emphasis mine.) For Sundays and Solemnities, the liturgical day runs from 4:00 p.m. of the calendar day before to midnight of the day itself – a period of 32 hours.

For example, on a weekend when Ritual Masses are allowed, attendance at a Wedding Mass after 4pm on Saturday would fulfill the Sunday obligation. Likewise, if a parish celebrated the Ritual Mass of Confirmation on Sunday, the obligation would be fulfilled."

Here’s another link: rpinet.com/ml/2507bi2.html

This same question has been addressed in the “Ask an Apologist” forum on these boards.

OP, I think you will find that you’re OK (up there in Massachusetts, my home state!)

God bless!
The OP wasn’t so much interested in what readings, etc., would be used…he just wanted to know if a Nuptial Mass on Saturday at 5:30 pm fulfilled his Sunday obligation. It does.
That’s correct. A Mass celebrated on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary Time (from midnight to midnight) or in the evening of the preceeding Saturday after 4pm, must use the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time. A wedding Mass on the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time would be a Mass for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time, with the proper readings for the 23rd Sunday in Ordinary time and the Rite of Marriage inserted into the Mass.
*… For Sundays and Solemnities, the liturgical day runs from 4:00 p.m. of the calendar day before to midnight of the day itself – a period of 32 hours … *

That’s all very well and good but it depends on the ruling of the local bishop. For example, our bishop will not allow any Sunday masses to start after 12noon. So the fact that the liturgical day doesn’t end until midnight has no bearing on the matter because no masses can be celebrated under his jurisdication [sp] during those last six hours.
 
*… For Sundays and Solemnities, the liturgical day runs from 4:00 p.m. of the calendar day before to midnight of the day itself – a period of 32 hours … *

That’s all very well and good but it depends on the ruling of the local bishop. For example, our bishop will not allow any Sunday masses to start after 12noon. So the fact that the liturgical day doesn’t end until midnight has no bearing on the matter because no masses can be celebrated under his jurisdication [sp] during those last six hours.
I’d think I’d seen you post this info before somewhere else and thought it very odd. I wonder what his reasons are? Although most parishes here (AL) don’t offer Sunday evening Masses, about a half dozen parishes or chapels (university) do, in case the need arises (work, family obligations, illness, etc.) and these Masses are always well attended.

At any rate - the OP has had his question answered and I hope he has a wonderful time at the wedding in question, and blessings to the couple 🙂
 
I don’t know what his reasons are either. All I know is that if we miss the 11:30am mass, we end up driving 1 hour and 20 minutes (1 way) in order to attend an afternoon mass in another diocese where their Bishop allows it.

In any event, it illustrates my point that all of this depends on the ruling of the local bishop.
 
I don’t know what his reasons are either. All I know is that if we miss the 11:30am mass, we end up driving 1 hour and 20 minutes (1 way) in order to attend an afternoon mass in another diocese where their Bishop allows it.

In any event, it illustrates my point that all of this depends on the ruling of the local bishop.
I recall one diocese I was in [before we had evening masses] the parishes got into a contest of who could schedule that latest mass - It brought in a big collection. The bishop had to set a limit.
 
I’d think I’d seen you post this info before somewhere else and thought it very odd. I wonder what his reasons are? Although most parishes here (AL) don’t offer Sunday evening Masses, about a half dozen parishes or chapels (university) do, in case the need arises (work, family obligations, illness, etc.) and these Masses are always well attended.

At any rate - the OP has had his question answered and I hope he has a wonderful time at the wedding in question, and blessings to the couple 🙂
Thanks everyone for your responses. My question was clearly answered and I had a great time at a wonderful wedding.
 
Thanks everyone for your responses. My question was clearly answered and I had a great time at a wonderful wedding.
Wonderful! (If you don’t mind my asking, what parish in Massachusetts? I grew up on, and still visit, the South Shore where I have family.)

Blessings!
 
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