Supernatural Shenanigans? Bring 'em on!

[boomerang]

I just read this today:

In a July 9 Newsweek article, a physicist says this nickname (“God Particle”) for the Higgs-boson is particularly unfortunate because, he argues, its discovery might actually help eliminate the need for God: “…it validates an unprecedented revolution in our understanding of fundamental physics and brings science closer to dispensing with the need for any *supernatural shenanigans *all the way back to the beginning of the universe,” he writes, concluding: “The Higgs particle is now arguably more relevant than God.” (italics mine)

That said, I’ve been going over in my mind all the “supernatural shenanigans” that have occured in the lives of my family and myself and there’s been a load of them:

1. My mother and myself have both (at separate times) heard an audible supernatural voice. My voice experience was a direct answer to something I had prayed about a few weeks earlier.
2. I saw an orb with the naked eye about 2 years ago. You know those transparent balls of white (usually) light you see in pictures? That everyone says ad nauseum is “dust”? Hello! They’re not dust!
3. When my very devout aunt was dying, her friends from church were praying over her and suddenly, the room filled with the scent of flowers.
4. My husband saw his dead grandfather, smiling and standing in the living room. Just for a few seconds.
5. Several family members have heard their dogs barking in the house a few hours after the dogs had died.
6. I know two credible women who claim to have seen Jesus. Both were experiencing severe trials at the time.

Gotta feel sorry for these scientists. Who else out there in cyberspace wants to tell about their “supernatural shenanigans”?

 

[erine]

I have stuff like that all the time

 

[trapper1]

I just read this today:

In a July 9 Newsweek article, a physicist says this nickname (“God Particle”) for the Higgs-boson is particularly unfortunate because, he argues, its discovery might actually help eliminate the need for God: “…it validates an unprecedented revolution in our understanding of fundamental physics and brings science closer to dispensing with the need for any *supernatural shenanigans *all the way back to the beginning of the universe,” he writes, concluding: “The Higgs particle is now arguably more relevant than God.” (italics mine)

That said, I’ve been going over in my mind all the “supernatural shenanigans” that have occured in the lives of my family and myself and there’s been a load of them:

1. My mother and myself have both (at separate times) heard an audible supernatural voice. My voice experience was a direct answer to something I had prayed about a few weeks earlier.
2. I saw an orb with the naked eye about 2 years ago. You know those transparent balls of white (usually) light you see in pictures? That everyone says ad nauseum is “dust”? Hello! They’re not dust!
3. When my very devout aunt was dying, her friends from church were praying over her and suddenly, the room filled with the scent of flowers.
4. My husband saw his dead grandfather, smiling and standing in the living room. Just for a few seconds.
5. Several family members have heard their dogs barking in the house a few hours after the dogs had died.
6. I know two credible women who claim to have seen Jesus. Both were experiencing severe trials at the time.

Gotta feel sorry for these scientists. Who else out there in cyberspace wants to tell about their “supernatural shenanigans”?

Does the physicist explain how the higgs boson eliminates the need for God. If anything, the discovery supports the standard physics theories which seems to point to a transcendental begining to our universe.

 

[Nimzovik]

If a scientist asserts that the Higgs -Boson Particle existence is grounds for denying the existence of God then he/she simply is unclear on the concept. Period.

 

[Lochias]

Something else will happen 5 years from now that will bring the scientist back to square one. As I stated in another thread, science is simply the echo of a larger truth, as wonderful and inspiring as science can be.

 

[SurlyMermaid]

Something else will happen 5 years from now that will bring the scientist back to square one. As I stated in another thread, science is simply the echo of a larger truth, as wonderful and inspiring as science can be.

Agreed. My understanding and knowledge of science continues to deepen my faith.

 

[Sonic]

I just read this today:

In a July 9 Newsweek article, a physicist says this nickname (“God Particle”) for the Higgs-boson is particularly unfortunate because, he argues, its discovery might actually help eliminate the need for God: “…it validates an unprecedented revolution in our understanding of fundamental physics and brings science closer to dispensing with the need for any *supernatural shenanigans *all the way back to the beginning of the universe,” he writes, concluding: “The Higgs particle is now arguably more relevant than God.” (italics mine)

This reminds me of an old joke I heard many years ago.

God was sitting at his potters wheel one day. This scientist walks up to God and introduces himself as the head of the global scientific community. The scientist says, “You may have heard we’ve made great scientific advances recently.”

“So I’ve heard,” said God.

“Well, we’ve advance so far that we’ve finally found out the secret to creating any kind of life! A big step! In fact, we’ve gotten so advanced that we surmise we will no longer need your help,” exclaimed the scientist.

“Hmm… That is amazing, and you say you can do this all by yourselves without my assistance? I’d like to see that,” smiled God as he looked up from the bowl he was turning.

“I can show you now if you want!”

The scientist rolls up his sleeve and proceeds to reach into God’s clay bucket.

Suddenly, God closes the bucket lid and says, “Go mix your own clay!”

 

[Lochias]

Agreed. My understanding and knowledge of science continues to deepen my faith.

Yes indeed-y.

This reminds me of an old joke I heard many years ago.

God was sitting at his potters wheel one day. This scientist walks up to God and introduces himself as the head of the global scientific community. The scientist says, “You may have heard we’ve made great scientific advances recently.”

“So I’ve heard,” said God.

“Well, we’ve advance so far that we’ve finally found out the secret to creating any kind of life! A big step! In fact, we’ve gotten so advanced that we surmise we will no longer need your help,” exclaimed the scientist.

“Hmm… That is amazing, and you say you can do this all by yourselves without my assistance? I’d like to see that,” smiled God as he looked up from the bowl he was turning.

“I can show you now if you want!”

The scientist rolls up his sleeve and proceeds to reach into God’s clay bucket.

Suddenly, God closes the bucket lid and says, “Go mix your own clay!”

I gotta remember this one…

 

[Mwende_Ari]

Hi - what the scientists really need are prayers.

But I’m interested in the orb thing. I too saw one with the naked eye sometime in Dec 2010. It started small then grew bigger and brighter. I haven’t yet met anyone who could really explain to me what it is, though I’ve seen thousands of them in pictures!

 

[Nimzovik]

Yah… Orbs are not dust in front of a camera lens, as some skeptics tend to assert. Orbs were witnessed long before cameras were invented.

 

[BobCatholic]

With so many current theories that physics is coming up with, they’re off the beaten road of the standard scientific method. They’re now trying to cross the border into theology.

“God particle”? Interesting name. VERY interesting name.

And when physicists are making claims about the need for God, I’m wondering if they are trying to start a religion here.

 

[Bl_Pope_Pius_IX]

Yah… Orbs are not dust in front of a camera lens, as some skeptics tend to assert. Orbs were witnessed long before cameras were invented.

So their dust in front of our eyes then.

 

[boomerang]

Hi - what the scientists really need are prayers.

But I’m interested in the orb thing. I too saw one with the naked eye sometime in Dec 2010. It started small then grew bigger and brighter. I haven’t yet met anyone who could really explain to me what it is, though I’ve seen thousands of them in pictures!

Hello Mwende - 2010 seems to be the year for orbs. I saw mine in early November 2010. I had just gone back to church for the first time in 10 years. That night, I had a horrible nightmare in which I had just walked into my living room and suddenly noticed a solid black form, like a shadow, standing behind my husband. Suddenly the shadow attacked me. I was paralyzed, and felt like I was being crushed to death. I finally managed to scream “help me Jesus!” and the shadow fled. When I awoke, I was lying on my left side, just trying to calm my nerves. I was really frightened. After a few seconds, I turned over onto my back, and there it was. An orb, about 5 or 6 inches in diameter floating about 15 feet away, about 7 or 8 feet above the floor. It hovered there for about 4 minutes and then it slowly faded away. I felt totally calm while it was there. After it faded away, I fell asleep within seconds and slept peacefully all night. I think, at least in my case, this was an angel or something from above. It certainly didn’t seem threatening, not like the horrible shadow creature in my dream! I think it was there in response to my dream, and frankly, I don’t think the dream was just an ordinary dream. I think it was some sort of attack on my psyche because I had returned to church, and I got my husband to return along with me. This whole event really rocked my world. So, can you tell me some more detail about your orb experience? I love hearing from others who have seen them.

 

[Nimzovik]

So their dust in front of our eyes then.

 

[mitabrev]

I find it interesting that the scientists claim the the particle negates any divine hand in the universe. When the saw melt water channels on Mars, They thought “There must be men on Mars - canal builders, but they look at the universe and never think - there must be a universe builder.” (Fulton Sheen - Old Errors, New Labels). When they discovered that light splits into seven colours when passed through a water droplet, making a rainbow, they said God had no hand, act or part in rainbow. It’s amazing that analytical minds like these scientists only narrow their focus on the facts before them, and don’t go back through the steps, one by one, from rainbow, to rain, to convection, to seas, to energy from the sun, to …? The trail ends somewhere! Explain that!!?
Scientists - explain this: who made the Higgs particle, and all other subsequent particles, who makes the universe expand? What is it expanding into? Even more, explain how atoms and molecules combined to cells to organs to systems to organisms and not only onto living creatures, but onto consciousness and reason!
When they give an answer to all that, then, they can talk about God.
These guys make Nebuchadnezzar look modest!

Such appalling arrogance.

 

[trapper1]

I find it interesting that the scientists claim the the particle negates any divine hand in the universe. When the saw melt water channels on Mars, They thought “There must be men on Mars - canal builders, but they look at the universe and never think - there must be a universe builder.” (Fulton Sheen - Old Errors, New Labels). When they discovered that light splits into seven colours when passed through a water droplet, making a rainbow, they said God had no hand, act or part in rainbow. It’s amazing that analytical minds like these scientists only narrow their focus on the facts before them, and don’t go back through the steps, one by one, from rainbow, to rain, to convection, to seas, to energy from the sun, to …? The trail ends somewhere! Explain that!!?
Scientists - explain this: who made the Higgs particle, and all other subsequent particles, who makes the universe expand? What is it expanding into? Even more, explain how atoms and molecules combined to cells to organs to systems to organisms and not only onto living creatures, but onto consciousness and reason!
When they give an answer to all that, then, they can talk about God.
These guys make Nebuchadnezzar look modest!

Such appalling arrogance.

For those of you interested in learning more about how modern physics and cosmological theories support a belief in a creator, you might whant to read

*New Proofs for the Existence of God: Contributions of Contemporary Physics and Philosophy * by Robert Sptizer S.J.(amazon.com/New-Proofs-Existence-God-Contributions/dp/0802863833 )

and

Modern Physics and Ancient Faith by Stephan Barr (amazon.com/Modern-Physics-Ancient-Faith-Stephen/dp/0268021988 )

Father Spitzer is the former president of Gonzaga University; Stephan Barr is the head of the physics department at the University of Delaware.

 

[Nimzovik]

Thanks!

 

[mitabrev]

For those of you interested in learning more about how modern physics and cosmological theories support a belief in a creator, you might whant to read

*New Proofs for the Existence of God: Contributions of Contemporary Physics and Philosophy * by Robert Sptizer S.J.(amazon.com/New-Proofs-Existence-God-Contributions/dp/0802863833 )

and

Modern Physics and Ancient Faith by Stephan Barr (amazon.com/Modern-Physics-Ancient-Faith-Stephen/dp/0268021988 )

Father Spitzer is the former president of Gonzaga University; Stephan Barr is the head of the physics department at the University of Delaware.

Thanks

 

[wcknight]

It just seems to me that it would be impossible for any discovery no matter how great could ever eliminate God from the picture.

What could possibly explain away thousands of years of God-man interactions ?

Some folks are trying to say that there is some portion of the brain that is highly susceptile to getting or experiencing or feeling paranormal experiences.

I don’t buy it. Too many miracles go far beyond mere delusion or mass hysteria.

SOme things just can;t be done or faked with parlor tricks or slight of hand. Sure there are frauds and con artists, but too many miracles are the real deal, and no amount of new discoveries are going to adequately refute them.

 

[Sonic]

This article was posted a while back on CAF. It’s relevant to this topic.

New astrophysical discoveries leave little to no room for Atheism, expert says

Father Robert J. Spitzer

Denver, Colo., Sep 30, 2009 / 03:35 pm (CNA).- Contemporary astrophysics hold the scientific key to prove the existence of God, but unfortunately very few know the scientific facts, said Fr. Robert J. Spitzer, S.J, PhD, during a conference delivered on Sunday at the John Paul II Center for the New Evangelization in Denver, Colorado.

read the rest of the article here:

catholicnewsagency.com/news/new_astrophysical_discoveries_leave_little_to_no_room_for_atheism_expert_says/