Suppose you were a werewolf

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monicatholic said:
i want to be wolverine.

the sword fingers have got to be useful. but is he a monster?

i heard a segment on This American Life about superhero powers. wouldja rather fly or be invisible?

i absolutely would rather fly, but am surrounded by a country of untrustworthy people. overwhelmingly people chose invisibility-- my own family even.

i feel insecure in all relationships now. those sword fingers sure would come in handy. (i punned?)
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I think that wolverines fingernails would help in opening those tabs on soft drink cans. They would also come in handy to start the peeling process on oranges.
 
peeling oranges? sure?

they’d also come in handy (there’s that puna gain) on shish kabob night,
 
I think we should concentrate on our relationship with the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords instead of Satans tricks.🙂
Jennyl
 
If Satan is Beelzebub, the lord of flies, it seems a were-toad would be doing the real Lord’s work. 😉
 
jennyl said:
I think we should concentrate on our relationship with the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords instead of Satans tricks.🙂
Jennyl
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What! Should we ignore the fact that the Defender of our faith, the weretoad is discriminated against! For shame, Jenny.:eek:
 
I think perhaps this thread has wandered off to goofball world…

I would lock myself in a big secure room with a strong lock. This lock would be activated by a thumbprint scanner. The scanner wouldn’t be able to get a read from my furry fingers.

I’m guessing that werewolves would retain their human identities and memories, and just lose control due to their animal instincts. So a combination lock wouldn’t work if the werewolf coulr remember the combination. Although, if it were a numerical keypad or if the mechanism was delicate enough, werewolf claws might not be dexterous enough to operate it.

If I really thought I needed locked up, I’d just go to the local mental clinic and tell them what was wrong. That way, I’d end up in a padded cell whether they believed me or not:D

Of course, there’s the matter of getting out once the wolf thing wore off…🤷

There’s one other thing I want to comment on: That there’s no sin in hunting for food. This is certainly true of hunting animals (I invite all werewolves with a taste for venison to come live on the family farm. Bambi’s cute, but he eats a lot). But I would draw the line at eating anything with a soul–that’s why cannibalism is evil, after all.
 
linebyline said:
If I really thought I needed locked up, I’d just go to the local mental clinic and tell them what was wrong. That way, I’d end up in a padded cell whether they believed me or not:D

Of course, there’s the matter of getting out once the wolf thing wore off…🤷

There’s one other thing I want to comment on: That there’s no sin in hunting for food. This is certainly true of hunting animals (I invite all werewolves with a taste for venison to come live on the family farm. Bambi’s cute, but he eats a lot). But I would draw the line at eating anything with a soul–that’s why cannibalism is evil, after all.
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Well, if you transform in the mental clinic, chances are high that someone will observe you doing so. In fact, your transformation will probably be caught on tape, which will eventually get you all sorts of press. People will be forced to believe you. Maybe you will even be studied so that a cure can be created. Or better yet, the man from the dog whisperer will come in and train your wolf self to behave.😃
 
deb1 said:
Well, if you transform in the mental clinic, chances are high that someone will observe you doing so. In fact, your transformation will probably be caught on tape, which will eventually get you all sorts of press. People will be forced to believe you. Maybe you will even be studied so that a cure can be created. Or better yet, the man from the dog whisperer will come in and train your wolf self to behave.😃
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“Training Your Wolf Self.” Now THAT is a book title! And an Oprah selection! If you write it, I want a cut of the profits.
 
linebyline said:
I think perhaps this thread has wandered off to goofball world…
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I would lock myself in a big secure room with a strong lock. This lock would be activated by a thumbprint scanner. The scanner wouldn’t be able to get a read from my furry fingers.
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Ummmmm…OK. “Goofball world”, the man said…:whistle:
I’m guessing that werewolves would retain their human identities and memories, and just lose control due to their animal instincts. So a combination lock wouldn’t work if the werewolf coulr remember the combination. Although, if it were a numerical keypad or if the mechanism was delicate enough, werewolf claws might not be dexterous enough to operate it.

If I really thought I needed locked up, I’d just go to the local mental clinic and tell them what was wrong. That way, I’d end up in a padded cell whether they believed me or not:D

Of course, there’s the matter of getting out once the wolf thing wore off…🤷
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Perhaps you should just stay?? I mean, think of:bigyikes: Mr. Renfield!! Flies, spiders, mice, rats…
There’s one other thing I want to comment on: That there’s no sin in hunting for food. This is certainly true of hunting animals (I invite all werewolves with a taste for venison to come live on the family farm. Bambi’s cute, but he eats a lot). But I would draw the line at eating anything with a soul–that’s why cannibalism is evil, after all.
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I’ve got dibs!! The deer population here has to be reduced first. Then you can have the werewolves…(Well, you can have some of them…)
 
linebyline said:
There’s one other thing I want to comment on: That there’s no sin in hunting for food. This is certainly true of hunting animals (I invite all werewolves with a taste for venison to come live on the family farm. Bambi’s cute, but he eats a lot). But I would draw the line at eating anything with a soul–that’s why cannibalism is evil, after all.
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You’re right this is in goofball world, but we can still learn a bit here.

First, there isn’t a sin in hunting animals - true, but to my understanding that isn’t having to do animals having no souls. Infact if I’m not mistaken animals do have souls, they are just lacking in an immortal soul (is that the same as spirit?).

Secondly, ordinary animals that do kill humans (or anything with an immortal soul…so humans) can’t sin anyway cause they don’t have a moral sense. And if they could sin it wouldn’t matter cause what would the punishment be to a creature that ceases to exist at death?
 
First of all, there is nothing wrong with Goofball World. It’s among my favorite vacation spots.

Second, the thing about animals having souls is tricky. Suffice it to say, they don’t have human souls or anything directly comparable.

CCC 2258 says, “‘Human life is sacred because from its beginning it involves the creative action of God and it remains for ever in a special relationship with the Creator, who is its sole end.’”

CCC 2262 adds, among other things, “The deliberate murder of an innocent person is ravely contrary to the dignity of the human being, to the Golden rule, and to the holiness of the Creator.”

I don’t think the Catechism has a werewolf section, but from the part on the 5th commandment (see exerpts above) I think it’s specific to humans.

Now for a animal to be able to commit sins, it must have a concept of sin and know that killing is wrong.

People kill animals every day and that’s not wrong because animal lacks the inherent worth that H. Sapiens has been given.

Animals kill people and technically that’s wrong because, a) humans have no natural predators and b) humans have inherint worth above and beyond that of the usual prey species. However, I’m not so sure it’s morally wrong–and I’m sure it’s not a sin–because to be capable of sinning one must know that something is wrong and do it anyway. Animals can’t even grasp whether something is wrong or not, at least on the human level. Thus they’re off the hook.

That also means a werewolf would be off the hook, if the human consciousness was not in control: the CCC says urder is a deliberate act. However, one would still be obligated to do what he could to prevent his werewolf self from hurting anyone.

Essetially, I think I just re-stated everything Smber2c just said. :confused: Um… yeah.

And Zooey, I’m sure there are enough werewolves for us to share. Maybe we could work out a time share agreement? 😃
 
It would be wrong in some cases to kill animals—for example, if one tortured an animal to death just for pleasure. Not only would this violate the animal’s nature, but it would violate the natural law within us as well. I don’t think a werewolf would do this, however.

The word for “soul” (psuche) is used in the N.T. related to animals (about 7 times, I think). They have a vegetative soul (which means they are alive), but also an animal soul which supervenes upon the vegetative soul (which means they are alive, moving, and self-propelled). Only humans have an intellectual soul, which supervenes upon the other two (which means that humans live, move, and think rationally). In the N.T., only humans have “pneuma” (spirit), but animals have “psuche” (soul), in this limited sense.

Where would the werewolf lie in this spectrum? Is it entirely animal and hence entirely innocent of wrongdoing? If so, why did Lon Chaney always feel so guilty? At what point would the rational, intellectual soul “disappear” and the animal soul “take over”?

Were-toads, on the other hand, don’t feel guilty. In fact, they feel distinctly righteous, for reasons explained in other posts.
 
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