Supreme court and Gay Marriage

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First of all let me say That I am a faithful Catholic and hope and pray the supreme court upholds both Prop. 8, and the D.O.M.A. (defense of marriage act). And that I am merely commenting on a news article.

The supreme court is taking up 2 separate issues concerning Gay marriage.

Proposition 8 which is the law passed by voters in California banning Gay marriage. It is being challenged as unconstitutional. And if it is struck down, then all bans on Gay marriage passed in other states go down with it.

And D.O.M.A (defense of marriage act) which denies sames sex couples federal benefits afforded to heterosexual married couples even if they live in a state that legally recognizes same sex marriage. It also, I believe, protects states that deny same sex unions from being forced to recognize a gay marriage performed in another state.

The court is divided into 2 camps; 4 liberals who will side with striking both down opening the way for same sex marriage to be forced down every throat in the nation. and 4 conservatives who will side with upholding both. there is 1 swing vote. Justice Kennedy who will most likely decide the fate of both laws.

In an article I read today:
news.yahoo.com/anti-gay-marriage-law-gets-chilly-reception-key-214100875.html

It seems to suggest that justice Kennedy leans towards striking D.O.M.A. because it interferes with the states right to define and regulate marriage in it’s own state. Taking a states rights position. That may be bad news for D.O.M.A but also good news for prop. 8.
I think it is safe to assume that if the federal gov. has the right to regulate marriage in it’s own state, then it has the right to ban it.

If justice Kennedy is of good conscience he can not take a states rights view on 1 case and a federalist view on the other without being guilty of activism.
 
I hate to sound pessimistic but after our trust was betrayed on the Mandate decision. I have little hope this court has the strength and conviction to uphold our constitution. Nor do I think it has the strength to stand up to the evil of the homosexual agenda thugs.

Sadly my friend I think it is a forgone conclusion. And also I think it is a HUGE sign of the end of our country if not the world.
 
unfortunately, I agree. If it doesn’t happen now, they won’t give up till it does
 
Moore11 said:
I hate to sound pessimistic but after our trust was betrayed on the Mandate decision. I have little hope this court has the strength and conviction to uphold our constitution. Nor do I think it has the strength to stand up to the evil of the homosexual agenda thugs.

Sadly my friend I think it is a forgone conclusion. And also I think it is a HUGE sign of the end of our country if not the world.
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I (sadly also) quote you in full.
 
I do not have much faith in the supreme court, this is the same court that legalised abortion which has led to 55 million deaths of unborn children, but pray that the Justices uphold Prop 8 and DOMA. Prayer can change the world
 
Moore11 said:
I hate to sound pessimistic but after our trust was betrayed on the Mandate decision. I have little hope this court has the strength and conviction to uphold our constitution. Nor do I think it has the strength to stand up to the evil of the homosexual agenda thugs.

Sadly my friend I think it is a forgone conclusion. And also I think it is a HUGE sign of the end of our country if not the world.
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Where I am not completely ready to go to the end of our country and the end of the world discussion I agree that the Mandate decision was upsetting and seems to signal where the court sits on the right to left spectrum.
 
It is a time like this where I wonder if it would be better if the government (states and federal) would call legal unions “civil unions” and require couples from this point on to have their civil union recognized in court (by the government while those already recognized to currently bee married are grandfathered in) and then the couple can marry in their place of worship. I know that this is how things are run in certain countries. Hey, and the positive for the government is that they get even more money.

In regards to what currently is, states vs. Federal rights, if this leaves the states’ hands, would that also apply to divorce law? Sadly we are at this point because so many Christians did not fight contraception which has led to all the other destructive things that have happened to the state of marriage.
 
The good news is the last superpower, Russia, is still adamantly opposed to same-sex marriage. Pretty ironic the Russians symbolize Lot in a Sodom and Gomorrah like world.
 
Yeah, we’ve had legalized gay marriage in Canada for a while now, so it’s sort of old news to us; but still sad.
Ah well!
 
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