Supreme Court Justices Say Obergefell a ‘Problem’ for Religious Liberty

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I have no idea how you moved from Thomas dissenting on Roe to situational ethics. Perhaps you can go point by point, dot by dot, to logically show how the points tie together, rather than merely asserting I am wrong based upon your own idiosyncratic exploration of pointillism.
You talked about the merits of Thomas’ position instead of the obvious procedural problems with the court making any decision about ss marriage. The court rules on controversies which seek a place on its docket – it does not select which cases are to be filed or which ones are appealed. It does not rule ahead of time on current issues.
 
You’ve had (at least) two lawyers who have been watching the court for over three decades each explain this.
Can you say that I am not a lawyer? Why would I cite the most famous dictum, ‘secular humanism’? You speak of being a lawyer like it is a half step below ordination.
I’m not going to waste any more time trying to show you that the4 sky is blue.
You talked about opinions and dissents when there were none. That’s not very lawyerly. I would respectively suggest you go check the exact hue of the heavens. Dismount from your tall steed, too.
 
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I have no idea how you moved from Thomas dissenting on Roe to situational ethics. Perhaps you can go point by point, dot by dot, to logically show how the points tie together, rather than merely asserting I am wrong based upon your own idiosyncratic exploration of pointillism.
You talked about the merits of Thomas’ position instead of the obvious procedural problems with the court making any decision about ss marriage. The court rules on controversies which seek a place on its docket – it does not select which cases are to be filed or which ones are appealed. It does not rule ahead of time on current issues.
I don’t recall saying that Thomas ought to take an initiative in overturning a court ruling. Should that stop him from registering his dissent on a ruling? Judges are entirely free, procedurally speaking, to register dissent at the time rulings are written. Thomas did, and continues to voice that same dissent because he made a strong Constitutional case. He isn’t claiming that he himself will reopen R v W because the procedures allow it.

If I had claimed something about Thomas taking action that upends the procedures of the court you might have a point but I didn’t do so. Therefore, your point is disconnected from anything I wrote.

Perhaps you can now opine - consistent with your post - on Judge Emmett Sullivan’s completely rogue pursuit of Michael Flynn’s case despite that the DOJ dropped its prosecution of him? How does a judge taking to himself the role of judge and chief prosecutor sit with your “procedural problems” position?

Sullivan is going out of his way to “select which cases come his way” by refusing to drop a case where the DOJ itself admits huge issues with the way that case was constructed.

 
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Should that stop him from registering his dissent on a ruling? Judges are entirely free, procedurally speaking, to register dissent at the time rulings are written. Thomas did, and continues to voice that same dissent because he made a strong Constitutional case. He isn’t claiming that he himself will reopen R v W because the procedures allow it.
Thomas did not dissent from the holding on the current case. Judges can always say what they want. In this case, what Thomas said really means nothing. He was just running off at the pen.
If I had claimed something about Thomas taking action that upends the procedures of the court you might have a point but I didn’t do so. Therefore, your point is disconnected from anything I wrote.
I think you missed the point. Nothing Thomas wrote mattered.
Perhaps you can now opine - consistent with your post - on Judge Emmett Sullivan’s completely rogue pursuit of Michael Flynn’s case despite that the DOJ dropped its prosecution of him? How does a judge taking to himself the role of judge and chief prosecutor sit with your “procedural problems” position?
the judges stance actually troubled me until you consider that the judge had a miscreant in front of him who pled guilty. Why is the prosecution backing off now? I guess a judge can examine the reasons. It seems that somewhere along the way, either the prosecution or the defense was not entirely truthful.
But this matter is a deflection and off the point.
Sullivan is going out of his way to “select which cases come his way” by refusing to drop a case where the DOJ itself admits huge issues with the way that case was constructed.
No, the case was before him – he did not choose it.
 
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HarryStotle:
Should that stop him from registering his dissent on a ruling? Judges are entirely free, procedurally speaking, to register dissent at the time rulings are written. Thomas did, and continues to voice that same dissent because he made a strong Constitutional case. He isn’t claiming that he himself will reopen R v W because the procedures allow it.
Thomas did not dissent from the holding on the current case. Judges can always say what they want. In this case, what Thomas said really means nothing. He was just running off at the pen.
If I had claimed something about Thomas taking action that upends the procedures of the court you might have a point but I didn’t do so. Therefore, your point is disconnected from anything I wrote.
I think you missed the point. Nothing Thomas wrote mattered.
Perhaps you can now opine - consistent with your post - on Judge Emmett Sullivan’s completely rogue pursuit of Michael Flynn’s case despite that the DOJ dropped its prosecution of him? How does a judge taking to himself the role of judge and chief prosecutor sit with your “procedural problems” position?
the judges stance actually troubled me until you consider that the judge had a miscreant in front of him who pled guilty. Why is the prosecution backing off now? I guess a judge can examine the reasons. It seems that somewhere along the way, either the prosecution or the defense was not entirely truthful.
But this matter is a deflection and off the point.
Sullivan is going out of his way to “select which cases come his way” by refusing to drop a case where the DOJ itself admits huge issues with the way that case was constructed.
No, the case was before him – he did not choose it.
He is choosing to prosecute a case when the prosecutors dropped the prosecution. That is overstepping his role.

Whether or not Flynn is a miscreant isn’t for you nor Sullivan to judge without a case being made. When that case hasn’t been made that screams of prejudice.

See the video I posted above. There are numerous additional evidences beyond those discussed in that video to show Sullivan has gone rogue.
 
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