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faithfulone
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So Alice is mentally challenged/slow? Sorry I do not know the PC term.
My goodness. So many responses. It will be difficult to reply to each one. I will at least try to help some understanding. I cannot do much more than this, besides prayer.
“Alice” is living with them because she is disabled and has the simple mentality of a loving child. She is nearly 30 and “Carrie” is in her 30’s despite her menopause. “Brian” is nearly 30 himself but his mentality seems much more grown up. Perhaps not as responsible as he should be, but he does try his best. I think his care of “Alice” could use a little improvement, but I do remember that he has little experience with the disabled.
The Surrogate Motherhood was agreed to by “Carrie” even before she and “Brian” told Alice about their version of this concept. Surrogate Motherhood is entirely new to “Alice”, but she’s nicely not nervous about it. She only sees how helpful her loving gift will be. She does not see the adulterous side of it since “Carrie” knows about it and wanted it just as much as “Brian” and only the sweet side of her agreement and promise can be seen. The seed-planting will only be taking place until a pregnancy results. After that, there will be no more of the seed-planting. “Alice” is too simple to feel anything about sex, other than she thinks its boring and an uninteresting addiction. She prefers to be celibate, which often drove “Brian” and “Carrie” a little nuts. He wishes she were more “normal” and be interested in marriage and marital sex. Her ideal of a marriage is a Josephite one. That is, one without any sex involved at all. I guess “Carrie” just thinks “Alice” is weird.
It has already been agreed that “Alice” would be the nanny and homeschool teacher, and “Carrie” would be the mother, “Brian” would be the father, obviously. “Alice” wouldn’t object to anything, considering its not her business and I doubt she could wrap her head around the idea that the child she bore is her child. She would probably just see the child as just a little human being just aching to love Jesus. She has already agreed that she’d give up the child, so there’s no question about that. She’s never gone against an agreement nor promise. She’s very integrity.
I do not feel “Carrie” is being left out. If anything, “Alice” is being left out. She gets no love, no affection, and she’s made to feel that if she doesn’t contribute around the house then she’s worthless to have around, or so “Brian” told her. I think that’s the worst thing he could’ve said to her and it doesn’t help that “Carrie” has this same viewpoint and would most likely repeat it. “Alice” just wants to be loved for who she is, and I do my best to do that. It seems nobody else in the world does, besides Jesus. All the world sees is what a burden she is and don’t appreciate her hugs.
I know “Alice” would be better off breaking her promise, but she sees that as wrong. So how can I try to direct her to do that? She doesn’t see the Surrogate Motherhood as wrong, so its useless for me to try to explain to her that it is, though I did try. She doesn’t want Priest involvement. She just wants to continue being Catholic without receiving Communion nor any Sacraments. She thinks that’s fair if what she did was wrong, though she doesn’t see it as wrong. She’s trying to do the right thing, smile, and hope. I know she’s not doing the right thing, is faking that smile, and her hope will probably carry a little despair with it because she doesn’t understand why she’s being punished for something that is loving and selfless. Its like she’s being punished for abortion though that’s not what she’s done and she’s very anti-abortion and she was almost an abortion victim herself while in her mother’s womb.
And in case you ask, no, she can’t rely on her family. They don’t care about her and were always abusive to her.
I think this will be my last post. I wish I knew how to close my own threads like I’ve seen people do at other forums. I understand people’s need for updates, but I’m seeing more harm than good out of this thread. I’m glad I got answers and advice, but a lot of judgment and other vices seem to be going on and I feel almost egged on to provide more and more info. I’ll at least put my own advice below, for others to read.
For those considering Surrogate Motherhood, don’t do it. It may seem a loving choice and perhaps lifefully done, but its not allowed by the Church and its a form of adultery. You will risk your salvation and mess up your life. Any man that pressures you for a gift, in any way, is not a man. Even if he’s aching for a child, don’t react to his ache. If you’re disabled and in this situation, talk to other adults about it. Don’t drop it into their lap when you’re sad and troubled, way after such an agreement and promise was made.
There. I think that does it okay.
It’s simply unbelievable that this is even being talked about. Shakes his head
Was she NOT disabled in High School?
Poor Alice.
Below I will post an excerpt of how another woman was redeemed from selling her soul to the devil by the intercession of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the Most Holy Rosary!!