survey Mary is God? yes or no?

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YADA:
Mary is not God nor is she god (with a little ‘g’).

Mary is the Mother of God (Theotakos). Elizabeth asked “How is it that the mother of my Lord comes to me?”

On another post you remarked upon the belief that Mary’s body was not left to corruption like that was a novel idea. Scripture tells us that Elijah was taken in a flaming chariot to heaven and Enoch who “walked with God all the days of his life” di not die but was assumed directly into heaven. The church does not say whether Mary died or did not die but holds that at the end of her time on earth, she was assumed (ie not by her own power but by the power of God; different from Jesus, who ascended by his own power) into heaven before her body was able to decay. Mary’s assumption is not unigue in Scripture, but it does place her in good company.

Mary always points the way to Jesus
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Yada, that is not a necessary Catholic belief (dogma), that is a theory. Most Catholics, Eastern Catholic and Latin Catholic believe that the Blessed Mother died and was assumed into Heaven after her earthly life had ended.
 
Salaam everyone;
ilah in Arabic means god, Al-ilah means THE god, that is God.
The Qur’an speaks about people taking Mary as god (ilah) and not God (Al-ilah)

Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once).

From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe?

As for the Qur’an getting the trinity, the subject has been touched upon in another thread here

Salaam.
Joseph.
 
“Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary?”

Hi Joseph. Actually this Catholic sister is wondering where in the world you got the idea that Catholics believe firmly that no prayer except to Mary is heard?!? I’ve never heard that taught in my life. : ) Lisa
 
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deb1:
Perhaps he is trying to make a point by taking a survey of our beliefs. So put me down for a no. Mary is not God.
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PLEASE put me down for a BIG NO also
 
Daniel Marsh said:
“And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.” Holy Qur’an 5:116

Do you believe that Mary is God?

Is there anywhere in Catholic History where it was believed that Mary is God?
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There is only one Lord, and One God, Jesus Christ. :bowdown2: :amen: No, there is no where in Christian history of Mary ever being God. She never will be. she is the mother of the Word Incarnate, Jesus.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Salaam everyone;
ilah in Arabic means god, Al-ilah means THE god, that is God.
The Qur’an speaks about people taking Mary as god (ilah) and not God (Al-ilah)

Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once).

From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe?

As for the Qur’an getting the trinity, the subject has been touched upon in another thread here

Salaam.
Joseph.
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You are COMPLETELY ignorant of Catholicism, and Christianity for that matter, if you think that we believe that ONLY prayers made through Mary are answered. Our principal prayer (and the only obligatory one), which is the Mass, doesn’t mention her at all except to say only that she was Jesus’ mother. All prayers in the Mass are made directly to (and about) God the Father or Jesus.

As for Mary hearing prayers - which is not the same thing as granting them - well, we believe that Jesus performed his very first miracle AT MARY’S REQUEST. If she is the mother of God and if she is in Heaven with Him, and she loves human beings and has asked for favours for them, why cannot He, who has performed so many other miracles, allow her a small share in his power to hear prayers? After all, even human beings are allowed to share in His power through the bearing of children, which is a reflection of His own creative power.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary
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Joseph,

Where did you ever hear such a thing? This is the first time I have heard this and being a Catholic you think I would have been let in on all the firm beliefs of the Catholic Church.

We can ask Mary as our heavenly mother to pray to God on our behalf, the same way I can ask anyone to pray for me, but we NEVER pray to her or believe prayers must be made only through her.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once). From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe? Joseph.
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**Joseph, **
**Again, I’ve been Catholic all of my life and I haven’t been taught that prayers can be answered ONLY through Mary. Mary has no special power to grant our prayers but we believe that she goes to her Son, Jesus with our requests. **

Please, Joseph don’t go around explaining Catholicism because you haven’t a clue … anymore than I do about your faithhttp://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon4.gif
 
shannin said:
**I have been a Catholic all of my life. I have never been taught that Mary is God :mad: Get it through your head. Catholics do not believe that Mary is God :mad: **

If we did think she was God then why on earth would we constantly deny it? Really http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon4.gifhttp://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon4.gif
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Same. Only when talking to Protestants do Catholics ever get the idea that Catholics think Mary is God.

Trust me, if we believed that Mary was God and that it was necessary to believe in her for our salvation, we wouldn’t hide it! We have excommunicated heretics before who worshipped the Blessed Mother as God.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary.
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This is not a belief of mine, and I believe everything the Catholic Church teaches is true and hold to the Magisterium and the deposit of faith. O Jesus, Hear our Prayers.

Here you are spreading lies which others accuse you of doing… namely idolatry. Because you face Makkah and the Kabba when you pray, many accuse Muslims of idolatry. So please, don’t tell us what we believe if you don’t want us to tell you what you believe.
 
Our Blessed Mother be proud of us all to hold her dear Son in highest esteem. May Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ per praised and honored and loved forever and ever.

Joseph: (I like your name, that’s our patron saint of the one true church) Our Mother is a conduit to her Son, like a telephone in the simpliest way I can put it. When you call your father on the telephone, you are talking to your father, not the telephone.

I hope this helps you. May God bless your interest in our religion.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Salaam everyone;
ilah in Arabic means god, Al-ilah means THE god, that is God.
The Qur’an speaks about people taking Mary as god (ilah) and not God (Al-ilah)

Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once).

From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe?

As for the Qur’an getting the trinity, the subject has been touched upon in another thread here

Salaam.
Joseph.
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No, Mary is not God! Joseph, where did you get the idea that prayers will be answered only if made through Mary? I’m a cradle Catholic and I’ve never heard of such a thing!:confused:

Vickie
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary.
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ALL PRAYERS GO TO GOD ALONE! As a Catholic, I firmly believe this. The context of your quote is wrong and you totally do not understand our concept of intercessory prayers.
 
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ChiFaithful:
Survey: The sky is blue. Yes or No?

I think you’d have better luck getting different answers with my question.
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The sky isn’t blue. It’s black. It appears blue in the day time because particles in the atmosphere block certain colors from the sun. 😃

As for Mary being God, put me down for a no (big surprise :p)
 
This entire Mary controversy is so bizarre to me. Catholic’s don’t worship Mary. Mary bore Jesus, the Son of God, Jesus was both entirely man and entirely God, so he had a human mother who is Mary. Why is it wrong to love and venerate Mary, the woman who bore Jesus?

Protestants border on disrespect towards Mary when they argue against the Catholic position. Like she could’ve be anyone, your next door neighbor even, and she meant nothing. Mary was specifically chosen by God before time even began to bear the savior of the world. I think that deserves some love and respect. But she is a woman, and we don’t worship her, nor has it ever been taught that our prayers won’t be answered unless we pray to Mary. We pray to God directly without any problems.

Protestants or Muslims - do you love your own mother? Do you venerate her, and hold in high regard? So why not love and veneration for the mother of Jesus?
 
I have a DEEP DEVOTION to the Blessed Mother and no one is EVER going to make me feel guilty for that. She is the mother of Jesus … The Angel said to her, “Hail full of grace” and that pretty much sums it up. A devotion to someone is different than worshipping someone.

Catholics keep explaining this over and over and it never seems to sink in :mad: :banghead:
 
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