survey Mary is God? yes or no?

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shannin:
I have a DEEP DEVOTION to the Blessed Mother and no one is EVER going to make me feel guilty for that. She is the mother of Jesus … The Angel said to her, “Hail full of grace” and that pretty much sums it up. A devotion to someone is different than worshipping someone.

Catholics keep explaining this over and over and it never seems to sink in :mad: :banghead:
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It doesn’t sink in because none are so blind as those who REFUSE to see.

Mary is NOT God.

I pray to God and it is HIM alone who can answer my prayers.

Sometimes I ask others to pray to God for me… this includes my brothers & sisters here on earth and my brothers & sisters in heaven (the Saints) but regardless of who is praying - still it is God alone who answers prayers.
 
If Islam teaches that Catholics worship Mary or consider her to be a goddess, that is just one more factual and historical proof that Islam is a false religion.
 
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Eden:
Why are you quoting the Quran and asking Catholics if they believe the Blessed Virgin is God in the same post?

Since you were once Catholic, I assume you remember that the Church does not teach that Mary is God.
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Hi Eden, I have never been a catholic in my life.
 
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JimG:
Of course, the Church has never taught that Mary is God.

But the Quran misunderstands Church teaching, and so tries to correct a teaching that was never taught.
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exactly, thus the Quran is in error.
 
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PaulDupre:
If Islam teaches that Catholics worship Mary or consider her to be a goddess, that is just one more factual and historical proof that Islam is a false religion.
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👍

Its also a false statement to make that we worship Mary, or consider her to be a goddess.
 
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joshua_b:
Forgive me if I am wrong but I am a little inquisitive as to why you would ask such a question. I can guarantee that you will find absolutely NO Catholic on the face of the planet, with even the most basic knowledge of Catholic doctrine, who will say that Mary is God. Anyone who does is guilty of heresy, and the Church will very quickly, emphatically, and comprehensively say as much.
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Hi Joshua, I am only pointing out a muslim error based on the quran. I do not expect to find anyone who worships Mary as God.
 
Semper Fi:
Yes, so Muhammad was trying to correct what he saw as a Christian belief when it was a heretical belief. I can’t take someone like Muhammad seriously when he can’t even get Christian beliefs correct.
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My whole point in a nutshell. Those who remember me from Kresta’s board know where I am going with this.
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Salaam everyone;
ilah in Arabic means god, Al-ilah means THE god, that is God.
The Qur’an speaks about people taking Mary as god (ilah) and not God (Al-ilah)

Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once).

From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe?

As for the Qur’an getting the trinity, the subject has been touched upon in another thread here

Salaam.
Joseph.
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As has been stated by many Catholics here, we do not worship Mary nor do we consider her a Goddess. We also don’t believe that our prayers **must **go through Mary or that we have to go through any intermediary. Just as you do we go directly to God. We do ask others to pray for us. I am certain that you do that also.
 
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“And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.” Holy Qur’an 5:116

Do you believe that Mary is God?

Is there anywhere in Catholic History where it was believed that Mary is God?
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NO
 
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PaulDupre:
If Islam teaches that Catholics worship Mary or consider her to be a goddess, that is just one more factual and historical proof that Islam is a false religion.
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True!!!
 
Daniel Marsh:
I asked for a simple yes or no, not rudeness.
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I wouldn’t get too upset if you wanted to argue against the Koran using the historical Catholic position, you should’ve been more clear in your intent. In reading your statement it comes off as passive aggressive. I mean protestants KNOW Catholic’s don’t worship Mary, we always say that we do not worship Mary. So for someone to come on the board asking the questions:

"Do you believe that Mary is God?

Is there anywhere in Catholic History where it was believed that Mary is God?"

It just comes off as a passive aggresive, I’m sure the board gets stuff like that all the time, so they are quick to condemn passive aggresisive statements meant to minimize Catholic’s. And protestants saying we worship Mary is a big one.
 
Wow. I just visited the ezboards “Former Catholics for Christ” website for the first time since last August when we were discussing it on catholic.com in a thread called “Re: ‘Fun’ with a group of KJV 1611 onlyists”. The rabid anti-Catholicism that was the tone of that board last summer has completely disappeared from what I can see. I don’t see any foul language or offensive terms for Catholics being used. That was just a quick scan and the board is still what it’s name says “former Catholics”, of course, but all of the former Catholics there have really toned down. What a vast improvement! That’s really a testimony to the hard work and dedication of the Catholics who have participated with charity through it all on those boards all these months. Congratulations to those people - your patience really paid off! :clapping:
 
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Joseph_Alison:
Salaam everyone;
ilah in Arabic means god, Al-ilah means THE god, that is God.
The Qur’an speaks about people taking Mary as god (ilah) and not God (Al-ilah)

Catholics have the firm belief that prayers will be answered ONLY if made through Mary; from the Muslim point of view, that firm belief is synonym to worship, that is taking Mary as god. In Islam there is no intermediaries between God and His creation, Muslims pray to God directly, We believe He only One Who can here all the prayers -made by every single member of His creation- at once, Muslims don’t believe that any other except God has that power (to hear all the prayers at once).

From where did our Catholics Brethren get the firm belief that prayers are answered only if made through Mary? And from where did they get the belief that she can hear all the prayers at once, in every corner of the globe?

As for the Qur’an getting the trinity, the subject has been touched upon in another thread here

Salaam.
Joseph.
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Hi Joseph,

As others have already told you, Catholics do not have a firm belief, or any belief at all that only prayers through Mary will be answered.

It seems your confusion stems from writings against those who were denounced by the Catholic Church as well as your prophet?

Those teachings against the “Catholic Church” were not against the True Catholic Church but against heretics who still called themselves Catholic, but had already(?or soon thereafter?) been denouced by the Catholic Church.

If there is another explanation, I would be happy to hear it, but there has never been a time in the Catholic Church, the TRUE Catholic Church, when Mary was ever considered anything but the handmaiden of the Lord.

A follower of Christ,
Maria
 
What a ridiculous question, of course she is not now, never has been and never will be God. That is what Catholics believe.
 
I was wondering if English is the problem in the question. We say God, and we mean the supreme being, creator of the universe, the one and only, the omnipresent one, I AM, (see one of 15 litanies for a good list of titles) blah, blah…

Prior to my conversion, I specifically remember a conversation with a Mexican buddy of mine who spoke English, but somethings did not quite translate well. When I asked him about who I later come to know as the Lady of Guatalupe (which is another reason I think Protestents are confused, all the different Mothers of God, I had no idea that was Mary not being Catholic) , he called her “His God”. Now I have come to realize that maybe it was just a language difficulty. I sincerely think

I don’t think we should jump some one for asking questions, or questioning answers. Perhaps we should say, “I believe this, why do you ask?”
 
I fear that Muslims have such a hard time accepting that we Catholics do not in fact believe Mary is God because the Quran says that we do. The Quran is revered in Islam as the final Word of God and inerrant–yet… on this point it is clearly in error. This is quite the problem. So they will have to do everything they can to defend the assertion that Catholics worship God as Mary, even if we don’t admit it :hmmm:

Btw my Grandma beleives Mary is God, just like Jesus. She isn’t Catholic, but grew up Orthodox. I’m not entirely sure how she came to arrive at this belief, but it’s pretty firm!
 
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