Susan B. Komen exposed

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Thing is, we want PP out of business. Their main business is Abortion.

We don’t want to support them in any way-no how.

Women can go get a breast exam elsewhere.

Honestly? I never see women my age (51) going into our Planned Parenthood for “Health Care.” And, I’ve spent hours and hours on God’s Side of the fence.

I have, however, seen women my age (51) entering PP with younger women.
Many a times, with a Rosary hanging on the rear view mirror.

God Bless.
+Peace In Christ.
Love, Dawn
 
Wrong! The American Cancer Society is worse. They fund embryonic stem cell research (experiments on humans who are then killed).

This is not so.

God Bless.
+Peace In Christ.
Love, Dawn

PS Here’s a link for Reference for Catholics:

hli.org/index.php/news/113?task=view

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Thanks Dawn for the correction and for the helpful link. For those interested in making a safe donation, the article says:
Other medical charities that do not violate the dignity of the human person include: the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute (bcpinstitute.org/), the Thomas Hartman Foundation for Parkinson Research (hartmanfoundation.org/), and Easter Seals (easterseals.com).
 
Maybe, by outnumbered, I mean outnumbered in dollars or in experts where the movers and shakers play, but the latter can’t beat God’s army.

That’s disturbing there was a rosary in the car of a mother, probably, taking a daughter (likely) to PP.
 
What distresses me the most about Catholic support for Komen is that we have churches organizing groups to run in the race. I know of a parish from one diocese that enters into a neighboring archdiocese and that archdiocese specifically forbids its own parishes from participating. The entire parish leadership was alerted to the archdiocese’s prohibition and alerted to the fact that the archdiocese calls church group participation a likely source of “grave scandal.” The parish organizes Komen participation anyway. Isn’t the public contempt for ecclesiastical authority an additional scandal?

These sorts of funding relationships are the new normal. This gives bogus cover, a form of plausible deniability, to church leaders who want to pretend that they are not supporting abortions. Most parish leaders in most places can’t come right out and say that they don’t really support pro-life issues - at least not yet - so they must tolerate their pro-lifers with strained smiles and patronizing words of ambiguous support. (Although, in fairness, I’ve heard that some churches are unambiguous in their support of pro-life causes). The funding of breast screenings need not be funneled through PP. This is like free advertising and Catholic churches are helping to “build the brand” of Planned Parenthood.

Then there is the issue of cowardice on the part of church leadership. I admire the dioceses that did not shrink back from their condemnation of PP-Komen at the first specious suggestion that they were “anti-woman” coupled with the equally specious argument, “well. OUR affiliate doesn’t directly contribute to PP.” The clergy who hide in the rectory on this are cut from the same cloth as those who hid in the rectory during the civil rights movement. Can it be that all it takes to divide and conquer the Catholic Church and actually get them to CONTRIBUTE to the abortion industry is to move some money around in a few accounts?
 
The entire parish leadership was alerted to the archdiocese’s prohibition and alerted to the fact that the archdiocese calls church group participation a likely source of “grave scandal.” The parish organizes Komen participation anyway. Isn’t the public contempt for ecclesiastical authority an additional scandal?

If that includes those with orders, they should be severely limited someway, if not excommunicated. If it was done rightly to the SSPX and those probably ordaining women, why not these ecclesiastical dissidents? The lay leadership should also be dissolved, but it likely won’t be and that will continue to encourage dissidents to scandalize the flock.
 
I honestly do not know the correct sanction for knowingly disregarding this directive. I cannot imagine that excommunication is appropriate. But it seems that they certainly ought to be corrected. Perhaps under canon law the geography confers no jurisdiction and the only thing that matters is that the parish does not fall within the direct authority of the archdiocese - perhaps not. But that would be a pure legalism and the conduct still shows a stunning lack of respect. It’s quite confusing and disturbing to me that they are able to do this.
 
Wrong! The American Cancer Society is worse. They fund embryonic stem cell research (experiments on humans who are then killed).

This is not so.

God Bless.
+Peace In Christ.
Love, Dawn

PS Here’s a link for Reference for Catholics:

hli.org/index.php/news/113?task=view

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After having actually worked with ACS for two years I can say that this shocks me. I asked them flat-out because we were trying to organize a Colleges Against Cancer chapter at a Catholic University and was told that “at this time we do not fund any doctors doing stem-cell research of any kind.”

This link merely lists ACS under the heading “Other Groups.” Now, that certainly bothers me and makes me question the answer I received from multiple sources within ACS, but it also makes me question the source of the information from the web site as well.
Not just “many in this thread” but anyone who understands that money is fungible. Why is that a matter for such delicate dancing around? If Komen funded hate groups, but the money was only ear marked for the hate groups to do highway cleanups or the like, freeing up more money for the hate groups to print racist tracts, the Catholic churches would be screaming to the rafters about the evil of funding Komen. But since they only fund a group that kills babies, we get a big yawn or we get rationalizations for supporting Komen. Even Catholics have become desensitized to abortion. The enemy is so insidiously clever and gaining allies from among our ranks.
The idea that Komen is funding Planned Parenthood via its contracts for breast cancer screening assumes that PP would provide the breast cancer screening without the PP funds. I am not sure that is true. Based on what I observed during the few years I worked for a small non-profit, programs which can’t find a funding source disappear. Without the Komen funding, PP chapters might not offer the screenings, which means no PP money would have been tied up in such a program. It is entirely reasonable to think that the Komen-PP connection does not free up money for PP, since no money would have been tied up in the absence of the Komen contracts.

Now, I admit I can’t prove the above scenario. My point is that the “money is fungible” argument regarding Komen and PP is equally hypothetical, with little supporting evidence.

However, I do think that PP benefits, from favorable publicity and the good will of their clients, by providing such screenings on behalf of Komen. And that alone is reason enough to oppose the Komen connection.
Both of these arguments have merit, however both are hypothetical.

At the end of the day donations of any kind to any non-profit organization can always be directed to a certain source. For example, if I want to donate money to my HS sports program, I don’t just write them a check. I fill out that check and any other necessary paperwork to ensure that the money goes to the sports program only.

American Cancer Society has this paperwork and will honor it. Komen may have it as well, although since we can prove a definitive link with Komen to PP by sending anything to Komen you are ultimately “freeing up” money in their budget that can now be given to PP.

But imagine for a second if everyone gave to these charities but did so with restrictions, and convinced everyone else we know to do the same? We still live in a free-market economy, and as Dale has said the NPOs are still businesses with business finances. If they cannot find funding for a service they will cut the service (unless it’s the US government, who will only make cuts to education). If the group cannot get enough funding to pay employees and other expenses it will start letting them go. It’s as simple as that.

So regardless of WHO you donate to, ask for the paperwork if you have any kind of concerns. Limit what they can do with your money, and encourage your friends to do the same.
 
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