Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation connections to Planned Parenthood

[1ke]

leaner:

you mentioned the girl scouts thing – I have long heard about the senior levels of girl scouts being very pro-lesbian oriented, but since I don’t have kids of that age, haven’t really dug too deeply yet. Do you know for sure that girls can earn badges by visiting PP? I have a friend with a 7yr old girl in scouts who would probably VERY much appreciate that info, but I don’t want to freak her out unnecessarily, kwim? Any source info would be appreciated! Geeze – how in the heck do you have your kids enjoy their childhoods anymore!!!

Yes, many girl scout troops are involved with PP. Pro-life Waco led a GS Cookie boycott and the Bluebonnet Council finally disassociated with PP.

Visit www.all.org to find out if your local GS are associated with PP.

 

[1ke]

legeorge:

Does anyone know about “Relay for Life”? Is this also associated with the Komen Foundation? Or otherwise linked to morally repugnant practices?

Relay for Life is American Cancer Society. That is the charity my friend emailed me about. I emailed ACS on their position on embryonic stem cell research and they replied that the ACS’s position supports embryonic stem cell research. So, I did not donate.

 

[BillyHW]

felra:

Here is the link to a previous forum thread regarding the Susan G. Komen foundation and PP: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=16079

Here is an article regarding the same:
cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialR… 20050222a.html

Thanks for the links, I didn’t know about the previous discussion.

 

[PLAL]

Has anyone noticed on this Mothers Day the Susan B. Komen Foundation is forcing the Major League Baseball Players today to wear pink armbands for Breast Cancer Awareness?

I noticed some players have refused to wear the pink armbands! These must be the players who have done their research on the Susan B. Komen Foundation and realize Komen has ties to Planned Parenthood (the World’s Largest Abortion Providers) & Abortion has ties to causing Breast Cancer!

Kudo’s goes out to the players refusing to wear the pink armbands today!!! Susan B. Komen is the wrong organization to send funds to stop Breast Cancer. Instead we should send funds to 100% Pro-Life Breast Cancer Research organizations like…

Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer
www.AbortionBreastCancer.com

Breast Cancer Prevention Institute
www.BCPInstitute.org

Polycarp Research Institute
www.Polycarp.org

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Learn About the ABORTION/BREAST CANCER LINK. Listen to this INTERVIEW!!!

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**27. ****Program Name: **The World Overhttp://www.ewtn.com/images/smallspeaker.gif Listen Nowhttp://www.ewtn.com/images/disk.gif Download**Series Name: **The World Over **Host: **Raymond Arroyo w/ Susan Gertz and Karen Malec **Date Produced: **1/30/2004 **Description: **Breast Cancer’s possible Link to Abortion: Our in-studio guests will be Susan Gertz, Executive Director of the Women’s Injury Network and Karen Malec of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer.

 

[Christian4life]

Okay, Umm…did anyone NOT notice the fact that the whole reason Susan G. Komen is giving moneys to PP is because they are the ONLY place where poor women can go to get free mammograms in some places?

What the heck is wrong with us? Honestly the pro-life movement has to be half-braindead. The pink ribbons are NOT COPYRIGHTED. Anyone can raise money for breast cancer prevention - like US. Why is it that PP gets women in for the breast cancer screening, and yet pro-life pregnancy centers don’t?? Why is it that they get money for thier efforts, and we don’t?

Is it because we don’t care about women? Or are we just to dumb to connect the dots. If we give out breast screening services, not only will it draw women in and take money away from PP, it will show that yes, Pro-life people DO care about women!

I don’t know about any of you but I am only 24 and I recently looked up my risk of getting breast cancer and it is a whopping 5% chance, and that scares the daylights outta me.

 

[goodknight439]

I called the Komen number in Indianapolis because I had the same concerns. They said that, altho they did give to PP last year, it was not doing so this year. Hope this helps.

Right,
Until they do give to PP. Then when chalenged they will tell you that the person who told you this was misinformed etc. Then another excuse until next year

 

[PLAL]

You can still support breast cancer research but don’t give any money to the Susan G. Komen Foundation because they give some of it to Planned Parenthood.

There is a direct link between Abortion/Contraception and Breast Cancer and to learn more about the link listen to Karen Malec on the Audio Archives on this link…

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=78841

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If you want to support breast cancer research without having funds funneled to Planned Parenthood then you can give funds to one of the following…

1. Polycarp Research Institute (www.polycarp.org)
2. Breast Cancer Prevention Institute (www.bcpinstitute.org).
3. AbortionBreastCancer.com www.AbortionBreastCancer.com or by mailing us at P.O. Box 152, Palos Heights, IL 60463

 

[PLAL]

Karen Malec was on “Catholic Answers Live” on 1-20-06 explaining the connection between Abortion/Contraception & Breast Cancer. You can listen to the show on the Audio Archives…

Go to www2.catholic.com/radio/calen…h=01&year=2006

Then go to 1-20-06 and click on “The Abortion/Breast Cancer” Show.

When the window opens up, click on the link next to “Listen (Real)”.

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It’s a 55 minute talk. So if you don’t have the time to listen to all of it, I will let you know the important parts to listen. Here they are…

IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

10:00 (minutes into the program) Biology Explaining the Link Between Abortion and Breast Cancer.

45:50 (minutes into the program) Please Explain the Biology on How Contraception Contributes to Breast Cancer?

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OTHER SEGMENTS

2:30 (minutes into the program) Studies Showing A Link Between Abortion and Breast Cancer.

22:45 (minutes into the program) Information on the Relationship Between Oral Contraceptives & Breast Cancer.

27:30 (minutes into the program) Why Does the Susan G Komen Foundation Never Tell Women About the Link Between Abortion/Contraceptives & Breast Cancer?

36:30 (minutes into the program) Studies about Breast Cancer Risk/Who Should You Believe About Whether or Not There’s A Link Between Abortion & Breast Cancer?

PLAL

 

[KarenNC]

Has anyone noticed on this Mothers Day the Susan B. Komen Foundation is forcing the Major League Baseball Players today to wear pink armbands for Breast Cancer Awareness?

I noticed some players have refused to wear the pink armbands! These must be the players who have done their research on the Susan B. Komen Foundation and realize Komen has ties to Planned Parenthood (the World’s Largest Abortion Providers) & Abortion has ties to causing Breast Cancer!

I don’t suppose you happen to actually have any quotes or other evidence to back up your assertion about the reasons some players were not wearing the armbands or using the pink bats?

signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20060511-9999-1s11padnotes.html

yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/05/13/game-36-yankees-at-mariners/

mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070513&content_id=1963701&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

There are a number of reasons a player may have not chosen to use pink. Could be some of them were for the reason you think, but without direct information it is only a supposition.

cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage

"In February 2003, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) convened a workshop of over 100 of the world’s leading experts who study pregnancy and breast cancer risk. Workshop participants reviewed existing population-based, clinical, and animal studies on the relationship between pregnancy and breast cancer risk, including studies of induced and spontaneous abortions. They concluded that having an abortion or miscarriage does not increase a woman’s subsequent risk of developing breast cancer. A summary of their findings, titled Summary Report: Early Reproductive Events and Breast Cancer Workshop, can be found at cancer.gov/cancerinfo/ere-workshop-report . "

 

[goodknight439]

Lets get back to the point of the thread. Forget what MLB does or doesn’t do. They are likely misinformed or just don’t care- and they don’t have to as a business. Individual players? Hopefully like any person, they make their own decisions.

Fact: SGK foundation and many of its local affiliates give unrestricted funds to Planned Parenthood. Period. If you don’t agree with that, and we should not as Catholics, then give your Cancer research donations to another organization or a hospital that with different values. This has been stated in this and other related threads. If you choose to donate to SGKF, then make that choice with a well-formed conscience and a make restricted gift that specifies your donation only goes to Cancer research. They are obligated by law to honor that restriction.

QUOTE=KarenNC;2889463]I don’t suppose you happen to actually have any quotes or other evidence to back up your assertion about the reasons some players were not wearing the armbands or using the pink bats?

signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20060511-9999-1s11padnotes.html

yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/05/13/game-36-yankees-at-mariners/

mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070513&content_id=1963701&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

There are a number of reasons a player may have not chosen to use pink. Could be some of them were for the reason you think, but without direct information it is only a supposition.

cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage

"In February 2003, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) convened a workshop of over 100 of the world’s leading experts who study pregnancy and breast cancer risk. Workshop participants reviewed existing population-based, clinical, and animal studies on the relationship between pregnancy and breast cancer risk, including studies of induced and spontaneous abortions. They concluded that having an abortion or miscarriage does not increase a woman’s subsequent risk of developing breast cancer. A summary of their findings, titled Summary Report: Early Reproductive Events and Breast Cancer Workshop, can be found at cancer.gov/cancerinfo/ere-workshop-report . "

 

[KarenNC]

Fact: SGK foundation and many of its local affiliates give unrestricted funds to Planned Parenthood.

Could you provide the basis for your “fact” that the funds given are “unrestricted”? The only evidence I have seen is for specific grants that involved breast cancer education/awareness, mammography and Pap smears.

You may not be familiar with the way grants work. Grants are not a matter of “here, have some money, enjoy it”. Actually they have very specific restrictions and can be used solely for the purpose for which they are given. Grants go to fund the designated grant programs, not just be thrown into a general pot of money with which the agency can do whatever it wishes.

A funding source puts out that they have money available to give as grants to fund specific types of activities. Agencies then put together grant proposals saying how they would use such funds and how much they would like to request in order to do so. This involves a very detailed budget and breakdown of activities proposed (which can be a bear to write, believe me!). The funding agency then selects the programs that best fit their criteria and available money and give the grant. The agency receiving the grant has to (in my experience) provide a detailed accounting to the funding agency that the funds were spent in the way intended and the results achieved.

Planned Parenthood is an IRS registered 501 (c) 3 nonprofit organization just as the Komen Foundation is and as such has to follow pretty strict rules on the use of funds for the purpose for which they are given, exactly as you noted in the following:

If you choose to donate to SGKF, then make that choice with a well-formed conscience and a make restricted gift that specifies your donation only goes to Cancer research. They are obligated by law to honor that restriction.

 

[Rosalinda]

KarenNC has relentlessly cited ad nauseam the results of the National Cancer Institute’s workshop in 2003. One has only to read their summary to realize it was a kangaroo court. Personally, I have more confidence in one person who is prepared to take risks with their career in the pursuit of truth than a hundred who are willing to obfuscate the facts with a thousand truths to cover one lie. We all know hormones can be carcinogenic and it is common knowledge estrogen is removed from a cancer patient’s body either surgically or chemically. So it would be seem to be common sense to educate women while they are still young enough to make choices and alter their lifestyle how they can reduce their risk of breast cancer. Diet and exercise are good for your health as is having your first full term pregnancy when you are under 25 years of age.

[sign]The press statement made after the workshop, by Dr. Bernstein (who made the only full formal presentation on the ABC link at the workshop): “…even though the findings clearly show that ‘the biggest bang for the buck is the first birth and the younger you are the better off you are, …There are so many other messages we can give women about lifestyle modification and the impact of lifestyle and risk that I would never be a proponent of going around and telling them that having babies is the way to reduce your risk.’” (www.cancerpage.com, 3/3/03), which begs the follow-up question:
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quoted the FACT SHEET… Re: Review of Abortion-Breast Cancer link (ABC link) at National Cancer Institute (NCI) workshop on “Early Reproductive Events and Breast Cancer Risk”, held Feb 24-26, 2003

bcpinstitute.org./abc_nci.htm

 

[buffalo]

Again, the World Health Organization lists the pill as a carcinogen.

 

[KarenNC]

KarenNC has relentlessly cited ad nauseam the results of the National Cancer Institute’s workshop in 2003. One has only to read their summary to realize it was a kangaroo court. Personally, I have more confidence in one person who is prepared to take risks with their career in the pursuit of truth than a hundred who are willing to obfuscate the facts with a thousand truths to cover one lie. We all know hormones can be carcinogenic and it is common knowledge estrogen is removed from a cancer patient’s body either surgically or chemically.

Not sure how you get “kangaroo court” out of the summary.

You are welcome to have “confidence” in whomever you please, but that is not the way science works. Science is not based on “one person” or one research study or one occurrence, precisely because one of anything can be very un-representative of the norm. It is based on the amassed body of evidence.

I see no credible evidence that those who were participating in the workshop were “willing to obfuscate facts to cover one lie” or doing anything other than looking for possible mechanisms that increase the risk of breast cancer.

There is a great deal of leaping going on from looking at treatments used for existing cancer to saying that the cancer is caused by an induced abortion.

Another one that I am going to continue to put out there is
pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1251638
“Breast Cancer and the Politics of Abortion in the US”. Well worth a read for both sides of the discussion.

So it would be seem to be common sense to educate women while they are still young enough to make choices and alter their lifestyle how they can reduce their risk of breast cancer. Diet and exercise are good for your health as is having your first full term pregnancy when you are under 25 years of age.

Yes, indeed, it is common sense to educate women on reducing known risk factors. Diet, exercise, and early first full term pregnancies have nothing to do with whether abortion is a known risk factor in and of itself.

 

[goodknight439]

KarenNC:

It is not my “fact” It is the fact stated by the SGK foundation and their affiliates on their IRS 990’s. I supplied multiple sources in a previous post. I am VERY familiar with the way grants work. I am a professional in non-profit senior management. No one said there weren’t grants issued for the reasons you stated in additon to other donations. Refer to their 990 statement not their web site and promotional materials. Perhaps you aren’t familiar with a 990?

Could you provide the basis for your “fact” that the funds given are “unrestricted”? The only evidence I have seen is for specific grants that involved breast cancer education/awareness, mammography and Pap smears.

You may not be familiar with the way grants work. Grants are not a matter of “here, have some money, enjoy it”. Actually they have very specific restrictions and can be used solely for the purpose for which they are given. Grants go to fund the designated grant programs, not just be thrown into a general pot of money with which the agency can do whatever it wishes.

A funding source puts out that they have money available to give as grants to fund specific types of activities. Agencies then put together grant proposals saying how they would use such funds and how much they would like to request in order to do so. This involves a very detailed budget and breakdown of activities proposed (which can be a bear to write, believe me!). The funding agency then selects the programs that best fit their criteria and available money and give the grant. The agency receiving the grant has to (in my experience) provide a detailed accounting to the funding agency that the funds were spent in the way intended and the results achieved.

Planned Parenthood is an IRS registered 501 (c) 3 nonprofit organization just as the Komen Foundation is and as such has to follow pretty strict rules on the use of funds for the purpose for which they are given, exactly as you noted in the following:

 

[KarenNC]

KarenNC:

It is not my “fact” It is the fact stated by the SGK foundation and their affiliates on their IRS 990’s. I supplied multiple sources in a previous post.

If you have provided multiple sources (or any sources at all), it was not in this thread, at least I see nothing under your screen name that does so.

I would be glad to look at any such information you would care to provide and appreciate your highlighting the specific line items in the specific 990s that show unrestricted versus grant monies and that any such unrestricted donations to Planned Parenthood came from the Komen Foundation.

 

[estesbob]

If you have provided multiple sources (or any sources at all), it was not in this thread, at least I see nothing under your screen name that does so.

I would be glad to look at any such information you would care to provide and appreciate your highlighting the specific line items in the specific 990s that show unrestricted versus grant monies and that any such unrestricted donations to Planned Parenthood came from the Komen Foundation.

Doesn’t really matter where it’s restricted or unrestricted and I say this as a CPA who is the accountant for many nonprofits. Money is fungible. When people restrict their funds for a certain use that means that unrestricted funds don’t have to be used for this purpose and can be used for other things, in the end the nonprofit ends up spending the same amount of money on each function regardless.

You would not know by looking at a 990 whether certain donors fund contributions were restricted or not. I assume if the Susan G. Koman breast cancer foundation had restricted their funds they would tell us so. A press release saying they are giving them to Planned Parenthood for breast cancer screening is not a legal restriction of the funds. I think the fact that Planned Parenthood took their money and cut back on breast cancer screening is very telling.

I recall the same dodge being used to try and convince me to contribute to United Way even though they supported Planned Parentedhood. I made clear,to myboss that I I would not support any charity that funded this evil organization regardless of how the funds were strctured .

Given that there are other organizations that are working to end breast Cancer that do not support this evil organization in any way shape or form I think it’s a no-brainer that we do not contribute to a charity that supports Planned Parenthood regardless of what rationale they use.

 

[goodknight439]

My mistake it was in another thread related to this topic:

Originally Posted by Dale_M
I am sorry but I don’t understand. What are 990s and how do I check them?

Rsponse: The 990 is basically the tax return for a 501(c) 3 non-profit organization. It is an official IRS document and is public information.

I review mine through “Guide Star” which is a service that is free with optional services to purchase. The organization is also obligated to provide their 990 upon request to a the general public. However they may make you jump through hoops to get it. One can also use “Foundation Finder”

Keep in mind this is a complex document and there are many ways to hide information in attachments, appendicies and multiple categories. Look carefully, its all there. Komen specifically has many affiliates in Texas and across the country.

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Sorry but I can’t paste a direct image from the actual 990 .pdf file but if you go to the one of the sites above and download documents from the list of 990s and reserach the “Health treatment programs and grants” and the programs that “provide resources for the medically underserved, women of color, other special populations, breast cancer paitients and health professionals” that are awarded nationally and passed down through the affiliates, you get answers. The SGK National (parent) 2006 990 also makes it very clear in statement 19 that affiliates may distrbute their grants at their own discretion and the is no restriction to how or to whom the funds are distributed. There is even a flow chart to illustrate the process.

You also need to follow the money it thourgh to the corresponding local Planned Parenthood 990’s. It is tedious and takes detective work. Many such agencies and their accountants are quite deceptive. I once worked at a non profit where the CEO showed that he didn’t take a salary for his job as President of the board on one page, but had it hidden under the line for “compensation to officers and directors.” No where on the 990 did it show the $85,000 went to him directly.

Happy Hunting.

Please also note estesbob’s (name removed by moderator)ut above. He is quite accurate.

If you have provided multiple sources (or any sources at all), it was not in this thread, at least I see nothing under your screen name that does so.

I would be glad to look at any such information you would care to provide and appreciate your highlighting the specific line items in the specific 990s that show unrestricted versus grant monies and that any such unrestricted donations to Planned Parenthood came from the Komen Foundation.

 

[estesbob]

It is tedious and takes detective work. Many such agencies and their accountants are quite deceptive. I once worked at a non profit where the CEO showed that he didn’t take a salary for his job as President of the board on one page, but had it hidden under the line for “compensation to officers and directors.” No where on the 990 did it show the $85,000 went to him directly.

Happy Hunting.

Of course we are

 

[KarenNC]

My mistake it was in another thread related to this topic:

With multiple threads on the same topic, it is understandable.

Originally Posted by Dale_M
I am sorry but I don’t understand. What are 990s and how do I check them?

Rsponse: The 990 is basically the tax return for a 501(c) 3 non-profit organization. It is an official IRS document and is public information.

I review mine through “Guide Star” which is a service that is free with optional services to purchase. The organization is also obligated to provide their 990 upon request to a the general public. However they may make you jump through hoops to get it. One can also use “Foundation Finder”

Keep in mind this is a complex document and there are many ways to hide information in attachments, appendicies and multiple categories. Look carefully, its all there. Komen specifically has many affiliates in Texas and across the country.

cms.komen.org/komen/AboutUs/FinancialInformation/index.htm has some of the information

Here is G u i d e s t a r [ g u i d e s t a r .org/—the](http://www. g u i d e s t a r .org/—the) Planned Parenthood website redirects to that. (Remove the spaces—for some reason CAF turns that word into a series of asterisks.)

Sorry but I can’t paste a direct image from the actual 990 .pdf file but if you go to the one of the sites above and download documents from the list of 990s and reserach the “Health treatment programs and grants” and the programs that “provide resources for the medically underserved, women of color, other special populations, breast cancer paitients and health professionals” that are awarded nationally and passed down through the affiliates, you get answers. The SGK National (parent) 2006 990 also makes it very clear in statement 19 that affiliates may distrbute their grants at their own discretion and the is no restriction to how or to whom the funds are distributed. There is even a flow chart to illustrate the process.

That the parent organization does not put restrictions on the way in which affiliates may distribute their grants to agencies is not equivalent to saying that the affiliates then give their money to Planned Parenthood with no restrictions attached. As far as I have been able to determine “affiliate” in this case means the local Komen fundraising organizations, not the recipients of granst. I haven’t found anything so far that shows that Planned Parenthood falls under the term “affiliate” in this case.

The 2005/2006 990 for SGK National that I saw (from the Komen website above) did not include a flow chart. Statement 19 was in the middle of the list of grants paid through the year, no mention of Planned Parenthood, etc.

By using G u i d e s t a r I got the 2004 990 (the latest available, filed 2005) and it had a flow chart that showed that grants went to various causes, nothing about restrictions or non-restrictions, and it had no Statement 19 that I could find.

You also need to follow the money it thourgh to the corresponding local Planned Parenthood 990’s. It is tedious and takes detective work.

I’m sorry, but I simply am not seeing anything that supports that the Komen Foundation gives unrestricted funds to anyone outside of their own organization, much less to Planned Parenthood. Grants, certainly, but as I have said, they are not unrestricted. Obviously you believe you do and have seen concrete evidence of such. If you could provide the trail in simply one instance, that would be helpful (ie, which year’s 990, which page, which line, to which affiliate, and the year/page for that affiliate’s 990, then the particular Planned Parenthood office’s 990 that shows the results).

Many such agencies and their accountants are quite deceptive. I once worked at a non profit where the CEO showed that he didn’t take a salary for his job as President of the board on one page, but had it hidden under the line for “compensation to officers and directors.” No where on the 990 did it show the $85,000 went to him directly.

That many agencies are deceptive does not therefore mean that all are. That would be the equivalent of saying that because one priest molests boys not only all priests, but all Christian clergy must do so as well, and we know that is not true.