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My mother has reached the age where it is very effective for her to gasp, put her hand over her heart, look intently at the person, and, just as they start to apologize to this sweet little old lady for the foul language, she interrupts and says, “You were having sex with your pencil?” 😛
:rotfl: I will have to remember that.
 
In terms of morality, is it bad to swear using explitives?

Culture suggests that it’s immoral, but I find nothing about it in the Catechism.
My understanding is that it is a venial sin. Here’s some good scriptures on it:

Luke Chapter 6:45

A good person out of the store of goodness in his heart produces good, but an evil person out of a store of evil produces evil; for from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks.

Ephesians Chapter 4:29

No foul language should come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for needed edification, that it may impart grace to those who hear.

Ephesians Chapter 5:4

no obscenity or silly or suggestive talk, which is out of place, but instead, thanksgiving.

James Chapter 3:10

From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. This need not be so, my brothers.

…and my favorite, now tell me why would you want this to apply to you?

2nd Timothy Chapter 2:16

Avoid profane, idle talk, for such people will become more and more godless,

God bless you!
 
Hi,

IMHO people who swear like that really sound uneducated. I tell my children swearing makes you sound stupid because there are so many other adjectives in the english language that can be used instead.👍

Just my :twocents:
I totally agree!
 
Question: are words such as “shoot, shucks, golly, gee, darn,” etc. considered to be swear words? I have some Reformed friends who don’t even use words like that, as they consider them to be swear words. I inadvertantly used the word “golly” around them once, and was chastised for taking the Lord’s name in vain. I felt terrible. I certainly did not think I was swearing, but I did not mean to insult my friends, either.
 
Question: are words such as “shoot, shucks, golly, gee, darn,” etc. considered to be swear words? I have some Reformed friends who don’t even use words like that, as they consider them to be swear words. I inadvertantly used the word “golly” around them once, and was chastised for taking the Lord’s name in vain. I felt terrible. I certainly did not think I was swearing, but I did not mean to insult my friends, either.
I think that’s going way too far. What do they expect everyone to say?

“Oh bananas!”

“Sweeties, this is awful!”

“Pumpkin Pie, I hit my thumb!”

😉
 
Question: are words such as “shoot, shucks, golly, gee, darn,” etc. considered to be swear words? I have some Reformed friends who don’t even use words like that, as they consider them to be swear words. I inadvertantly used the word “golly” around them once, and was chastised for taking the Lord’s name in vain. I felt terrible. I certainly did not think I was swearing, but I did not mean to insult my friends, either.
I was told once that such words are substitutes for swear words. So by saying ‘shoot’, a person is really saying sh*t. The problem is that until I was told this, the word shoot to me didn’t have any bad connotations in my brain. It was just a way of expressing surprise.

Its always been difficult for me to know how to respond to such people. They aggravated me, I have to admit.
 
I think that’s going way too far. What do they expect everyone to say?
Coming out of the Reformed tradition myself, I’d have to say that they’re expecting people to speak civilized English and say what they actually mean, or else don’t speak at all.

“Pumpkin Pie, I hit my thumb!” isn’t any less nonsensical than “Gosh, I hit my thumb!”

Why not just say “I’m annoyed that I hit my thumb!” which makes a whole lot more sense - and it’s what you mean to say, anyway. 😉
 
Coming out of the Reformed tradition myself, I’d have to say that they’re expecting people to speak civilized English and say what they actually mean, or else don’t speak at all.

“Pumpkin Pie, I hit my thumb!” isn’t any less nonsensical than “Gosh, I hit my thumb!”

Why not just say “I’m annoyed that I hit my thumb!” which makes a whole lot more sense - and it’s what you mean to say, anyway. 😉
This can be difficult to do when one is in pain and hopping around with their thumb in their mouth.😛
 
This can be difficult to do when one is in pain and hopping around with their thumb in their mouth.😛
I would normally just say, “OOWWW, AARGH!!” under those circumstances. (I have also roared incoherently at my computer from time to time.)
 
I would normally just say, “OOWWW, AARGH!!” under those circumstances. (I have also roared incoherently at my computer from time to time.)
But were you thinking bad words at the time? Was that incoherent roar hiding a few curse words trying to break free?😛
🙂
 
But were you thinking bad words at the time? Was that incoherent roar hiding a few curse words trying to break free?😛
🙂
That’s for me to know - you can think whatever you like. 😉
 
But were you thinking bad words at the time? Was that incoherent roar hiding a few curse words trying to break free?😛
🙂
Pardon me for butting in, but here’s my take on it…if something is shaken up and explodes then what comes out is what was inside. For instance, a bottle of pop will spill pop, a bottle of water will spill water. So, as the scripture says that it is “out of the overflow of the heart that the mouth speaks” then what comes out is basically what is inside of us. That being said, the cursing is an indication that the person needs to put more of God inside and less of the world 👍 Personally, when I hurt myself I usually say something like “O, pain! pain!” or “hot! hot! hot!” and no this is not hiding cursing, I don’t even think those words. Maybe this is a weakness on my part, but when I hear other believers swear it actually hurts my heart.
 
Hey everyone, thanks for replying to my posts and helping me to figure this stuff out. I hope I get the chance to do the same for each of you.

So, what’s your take on substituting the f word? Like, how about saying thing like, effing, freakin, friggin, flipping, etc.? It’s not exactly swearing, but it’s still a reference to something bad.

And if it is wrong, does that outrule saying, Oh gosh, jeez, etc.? In those cases, it is a reference to a word that we mustn’t be using in such a fashion.
 
Hey everyone, thanks for replying to my posts and helping me to figure this stuff out. I hope I get the chance to do the same for each of you.

So, what’s your take on substituting the f word? Like, how about saying thing like, effing, freakin, friggin, flipping, etc.? It’s not exactly swearing, but it’s still a reference to something bad.

And if it is wrong, does that outrule saying, Oh gosh, jeez, etc.? In those cases, it is a reference to a word that we mustn’t be using in such a fashion.
I’d vote in favor of the “by-words” each and every time! My take on it is that the closer we grow to God the less and less things like this become issues for us. In other words, I don’t like swearing because I truly believe it leads a person to be more godless, but I always remind myself that it is not a mortal sin. I always remind myself that, even in Jewish OT tradition, the sacrificial lamb had to be perfect and spotless but not those for whom the sacrifice was offered!!! It is the same relationship today with God, when He looks at me He sees the blood of the Lamb. He sees me as worthy and not as I am.
 
Pardon me for butting in, but here’s my take on it…if something is shaken up and explodes then what comes out is what was inside. For instance, a bottle of pop will spill pop, a bottle of water will spill water. So, as the scripture says that it is “out of the overflow of the heart that the mouth speaks” then what comes out is basically what is inside of us. That being said, the cursing is an indication that the person needs to put more of God inside and less of the world 👍 Personally, when I hurt myself I usually say something like “O, pain! pain!” or “hot! hot! hot!” and no this is not hiding cursing, I don’t even think those words. Maybe this is a weakness on my part, but when I hear other believers swear it actually hurts my heart.
Once, to my sons amusement, I actually yelled out the words, “Bad words.”

I rarely curse and I normally don’t even think of curse words. But I do have a set series of words such as darn, or gosh that have no connotation in my mind with any curse words.
 
I must be sexist. WHen a woman curses it always sounds so much worse to me then when a man curses.
I’ve always felt that the slide to the gutter is always a longer trip down for a woman than for a man. I guess I’m still hard-wired to believe that.

But having said that, I spent years on a fire department rescue followed by many years working with women in a trauma center in adult critical care and trauma team. To be honest, the guys were like boy scouts compared to some of the ladies I spent time with at work. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

I am in the business world now and the rules are different.
 
If you swear, keep in mind that there is literally a different neurological route used to utter expletives than for other words.

I have seen many stroke victims unable to say anything but nonsense–da, da, da, da, da–and then, in exasperation, they let out a swear word in frustration.

I tell my kids that there are words that are stored in a different place in your brain. Once you start to use them, before you know it, they start using you.

This allows them to understand why some adults use these words, yet the kids aren’t allowed to. The words own the adults. Let that be a warning.
 
If you swear, keep in mind that there is literally a different neurological route used to utter expletives than for other words.

I have seen many stroke victims unable to say anything but nonsense–da, da, da, da, da–and then, in exasperation, they let out a swear word in frustration.

I tell my kids that there are words that are stored in a different place in your brain. Once you start to use them, before you know it, they start using you.

This allows them to understand why some adults use these words, yet the kids aren’t allowed to. The words own the adults. Let that be a warning.
My mother worked in a Baptist nursing home for many years and she told some really funny/sad stories about a lot of elderly, very religious people who couldn’t talk any sense whatsoever, but would roam the halls in their wheelchairs cursing everyone they saw and talking very vulgur to everyone around them! You’d have to have been brought up Baptist to understand how scandalous this would be.😉

What goes in, stays in until some unforseen time. Garbage in, eventually garbage out. Lord help us all when we come to that time of humiliation in our end of days! :eek:
 
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