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My friend’s a clothing model, and recently was asked how she’d feel about modeling swimsuits to which she said yes. I don’t know if this would be immodest or scandelous, or OK.

Any advice? And why?
 
Why would you be the one needing advice? It’s your friend’s decision.
 
Looked at historically, it must be understood that fashion is not spontaneous but it is something decided by a small clique of fashion designers, usually from a few large cities known for their fashion designers. Let’s review:

In the 1960s, Catholic school girls were not allowed to wear their skirts so that the knees showed.

In the 1960s, the miniskirt was considered scandalous because it showed a bit too much leg.

In the 1960s, a proper swimsuit was one piece. Two piece bathing suits were allowed but only so long as they did not resemble underwear.

Let’s go to the present:

Thong bathing suits are ridiculous.

The current ‘bathing suits’ either resemble underwear or are smaller than actual underwear.

The thing to realize is that as the years passed, the goal was to “push the envelope of what people find acceptable.” Which people? Christian people.

I also heard the following constantly over the years: “Tame by today’s standards.” What standards? Whose standards? Were these standards written down anywhere?

A relative of mine decided to wear what I felt were inappropriate clothes. Her response: “But all my friends dress like this.” Of course, I get it. Young men will still respond to a young woman in the same way that they have for the last few thousand years. Look at a few Roman era statues.

A young lady I knew. A beauty contest winner. Told me she didn’t want to be seen in her underwear.

God bless,
Ed
 
In todays relative standards, it is easy for your friend to say “yes”, but it is oppossed to the standards of the Catholic Church.

Our Lady of Fatima has told us “The sins that lead most souls to hell are sins of the flesh”.

Pope Pius XII “Mostly through sins of impurity do the forces of darkness subjugate the soul”.

Women should be use Mary as the focus of the presentation of themselves, with a MARYLIKE approach.
 
aball1035 said:
My friend’s a clothing model, and recently was asked how she’d feel about modeling swimsuits to which she said yes. I don’t know if this would be immodest or scandelous, or OK.

Any advice? And why?
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What kind of swim suits? :confused:

For Target, Kohl’s, or JCPenney’s catalog? Or for “Frederick in Hollywood”?

Somebody’s got to model the swimwear, so customers can see what they look like… just as someone has to model shirts, pants, dresses, skirts, etc…

Not all women’s swim suits are composed of three tiny triangles attached with rubber bands… modest, acceptable swimwear does exist; in our park district’s pool, those “cheeky” swim suits are prohibited outright. And (maybe surprisingly) most of the girls/women in the pool wear swim suits that are pretty tame, from a “designer’s” point of view.

Our own daughter, a champion swimmer in the Special Olympics, wears her “swim team’s suit” which is an open-back single-piece black suit. Nothing is overly revealing about the suit, and all the girls seem to be happy with them. The coaches chose the team suits, so that the girls would be able to perform their strokes without being hampered by the fit.
 
Ponyguy said:
What kind of swim suits? :confused:

For Target, Kohl’s, or JCPenney’s catalog? Or for “Frederick in Hollywood”?

Somebody’s got to model the swimwear, so customers can see what they look like… just as someone has to model shirts, pants, dresses, skirts, etc…

Not all women’s swim suits are composed of three tiny triangles attached with rubber bands… modest, acceptable swimwear does exist; in our park district’s pool, those “cheeky” swim suits are prohibited outright. And (maybe surprisingly) most of the girls/women in the pool wear swim suits that are pretty tame, from a “designer’s” point of view.

Our own daughter, a champion swimmer in the Special Olympics, wears her “swim team’s suit” which is an open-back single-piece black suit. Nothing is overly revealing about the suit, and all the girls seem to be happy with them. The coaches chose the team suits, so that the girls would be able to perform their strokes without being hampered by the fit.
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My question as well. What sort of swim suits has a great deal to do with the answer to the OP’s question.
 
Ponyguy said:
What kind of swim suits? :confused:

For Target, Kohl’s, or JCPenney’s catalog? Or for “Frederick in Hollywood”?

Somebody’s got to model the swimwear, so customers can see what they look like… just as someone has to model shirts, pants, dresses, skirts, etc…

Not all women’s swim suits are composed of three tiny triangles attached with rubber bands… modest, acceptable swimwear does exist; in our park district’s pool, those “cheeky” swim suits are prohibited outright. And (maybe surprisingly) most of the girls/women in the pool wear swim suits that are pretty tame, from a “designer’s” point of view.

Our own daughter, a champion swimmer in the Special Olympics, wears her “swim team’s suit” which is an open-back single-piece black suit. Nothing is overly revealing about the suit, and all the girls seem to be happy with them. The coaches chose the team suits, so that the girls would be able to perform their strokes without being hampered by the fit.
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No one has to model them. That’s why store mannequins were created.

Glad to hear about your daughter and the Olympic swimsuits are not only appropriate but functional for traveling through the water at a good speed.

God bless,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
No one has to model them. That’s why store mannequins were created.

Glad to hear about your daughter and the Olympic swimsuits are not only appropriate but functional for traveling through the water at a good speed.

God bless,
Ed
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Thank you for the kind words for my daughter! 🙂

As far as mannequins are concerned, I can never recall seeing a mannequin used in a print (or televised) clothing advertisement… (Which is what I thought this question was about.)

In the store itself, I wholeheartedly agree, though…
 
edwest2 said:
Looked at historically, it must be understood that fashion is not spontaneous but it is something decided by a small clique of fashion designers, usually from a few large cities known for their fashion designers. Let’s review:

In the 1960s, Catholic school girls were not allowed to wear their skirts so that the knees showed.

In the 1960s, the miniskirt was considered scandalous because it showed a bit too much leg.

In the 1960s, a proper swimsuit was one piece. Two piece bathing suits were allowed but only so long as they did not resemble underwear.

Let’s go to the present:

Thong bathing suits are ridiculous.

The current ‘bathing suits’ either resemble underwear or are smaller than actual underwear.

The thing to realize is that as the years passed, the goal was to “push the envelope of what people find acceptable.” Which people? Christian people.

I also heard the following constantly over the years: “Tame by today’s standards.” What standards? Whose standards? Were these standards written down anywhere?

A relative of mine decided to wear what I felt were inappropriate clothes. Her response: “But all my friends dress like this.” Of course, I get it. Young men will still respond to a young woman in the same way that they have for the last few thousand years. Look at a few Roman era statues.

A young lady I knew. A beauty contest winner. Told me she didn’t want to be seen in her underwear.

God bless,
Ed
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Excellent post and so true.

It’s so sad having watched two of my younger sister’s daughters grow up through there teenage years into young women, one now 24 and the other 19. My sister had a difficult time influencing a moral sense of modesty in the way my nieces dressed in their teenage years after entering high-school without the backing of her husband who seemed somewhat oblivious to how his daughters were dressing with mini-skirts and low cut blouses that revealed a lot of cleavage. It made me as a their uncle feel uncomfortable and embarrassed to be in their company during family gatherings on Sunday afternoons for supper.

It would seem in today’s culture of sexual permissiveness some high schools have a difficult time enforcing dress codes to a point where I have seen a large contingency of parents actually fight against high school administrations over modest dress codes or compliance to school uniforms and take the school board to court over it.

Seems many things have changed when I finished high school in the early 1970’s where many high schools enforced respectable dress codes. And for some who can remember back in the late 1960’s to the mid 1970’s mini-skirts were mainstay in dress culture with women. Even female school teachers wore them bending the dress code to see how short they could make them.

I think a number of women today feel awfully insecure about themselves when they demean themselves by wearing sexy clothing. Men with a moral character of well being know this. In fact most men ingrained with a sense of moral integrity will agree that a woman can look far more beautiful when she dresses respectfully like a lady.

Men too can dress inordinately promiscuous, so I’m not trying to down-play women with respect to modesty.
 
As an uncle myself, I don’t think how young women dress today has anything to do with personal feelings but a simple desire to conform.

I left High School in the 1970s. People dressed well and modestly. The miniskirt was still considered scandalous. Hollywood did a lot to present young women as increasingly immodest. It took decades. If parents refuse to parent, and if Dad decides to be oblivious or leaves it all to his wife because either (A) he has no skill in or understanding of the female fashion sense or (B) he’s come to accept ridiculous clothing as the ‘norm’ because he sees so many attractive women on TV dressed similarly, then he’s not doing his job.

Over the last 40 years, I watched as a few shrill voices in the media kept telling parents to raise their kids differently or to not raise them at all. What needs to be understood is that all kids are born uneducated. Aside from the ability to cry, their understanding of the outside world and how to interact with it are limited. Teenagers are only marginally smarter and they also have to cope with their hormones. Two lies have been repeated over and over again over the last 40 years: celibacy till marriage is impossible. Mom, dad, don’t bother even trying. That is So Wrong. TV programs today promote obscene and risky behaviors for young people. The second lie is that kids will always rebel if you tell them not to do something. What? Say nothing and hope your daughter does not come home pregnant one night?

In the 1960s and 1970s, so-called experts decided to experiment with reality. They proposed things in schools and they told parents to do things “differently.” They thought they were trying to fix or improve something that wasn’t broken in the first place.

Raise your kids. Don’t leave that to so-called experts or the TV. Tell them you care about them. Talk to them. Tell them no and explain why.

God bless,
Ed
 
As long as the sleeves aren’t too short:

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