Synod Might Reconsider Liturgical Music

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VATICAN CITY, JULY 22, 2005 (Zenit.org).- The working paper of the next Synod of Bishops suggests that “songs used at present” in the liturgy should “be reconsidered.”

The proposal appears in No. 60 of the working document for the assembly of bishops from all over the world, which will be held Oct. 2-23 in Rome, on the theme “The Eucharist: Source and Summit of the Life and Mission of the Church.”

Based on responses from dioceses, religious and the laity to a questionnaire, the text acknowledges in No. 61 that “to enter into sacred or religious usage, instrumental or vocal music is to have a sense of prayer, dignity and beauty.”

In the liturgy, music must have “integrity of form, expressing true artistry, corresponding to the various rites and capable of adaptation to the legitimate demands of inculturation, … without detracting from the idea of universality,” the document states.

The working paper, published July 7, outlines the topics that the bishops will discuss during the assembly.

In connection with the question of liturgical singing, the paper states that “musicians and poets should be encouraged to compose new hymns, according to liturgical standards, which contain authentic catechetical teaching on the paschal mystery, Sunday and the Eucharist.”

Gregorian chant

In particular, the document suggests the rediscovery of Gregorian chant, as it “fulfills these needs” and, therefore, can “serve as a model,” quoting Pope John Paul II.

In No. 61, the text states that in the responses to the questionnaire with which they concluded the synod’s first preparatory text, “some lamented the poor quality of translations of liturgical texts and many musical texts in current languages, maintaining that they lacked beauty and were sometimes theologically unclear, thereby contributing to a weakening of Church teaching and to a misunderstanding of prayer.”

The paper refers in particular to youth Masses, stressing the need “to avoid musical forms which, because of their profane use, are not conducive to prayer.”

“Some responses,” it adds, “note a certain eagerness in composing new songs, to the point of almost yielding to a consumer mentality, showing little concern for the quality of the music and text, and easily overlooking the artistic patrimony which has been theologically and musically effective in the Church’s liturgy.”
 
In the liturgy, music must have “integrity of form, expressing true artistry, corresponding to the various rites and capable of adaptation to the legitimate demands of inculturation, … without detracting from the idea of universality,” the document states.
Well, that is sufficiently vague. :rolleyes:
Gregorian chant

In particular, the document suggests the rediscovery of Gregorian chant, as it “fulfills these needs” and, therefore, can “serve as a model,” quoting Pope John Paul II.
For me, Gregorian Chant is NOT conducive to prayer. It makes me want to cut my ears off with a chainsaw. :eek:
The paper refers in particular to youth Masses, stressing the need “to avoid musical forms which, because of their profane use, are not conducive to prayer.”
What is conducive to prayer to one person, may not be conducive to prayer to another. That’s why the Church has always encouraged diversity in music, while maintaining sacredness in lyrics.
 
Synod of Bishops suggests that “songs used at present” in the liturgy should “be reconsidered.”
This has to be the understatement of this liturgical year :bowdown: to which I add a joyful :amen: The quicker the sooner.
 
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malcolm_davies:
GLOBAL CATHOLIC NEWS
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VATICAN CITY, JULY 22, 2005 (Zenit.org).- The working paper of the next Synod of Bishops suggests that “songs used at present” in the liturgy should “be reconsidered.”
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hall-e-lu-jah!!!
The Lord our God omnipotent reign-eth!! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! . . .
:dancing:
 
Michael Welter:
For me, Gregorian Chant is NOT conducive to prayer. It makes me want to cut my ears off with a chainsaw. :eek:
Learn how NOT to have bad taste in music, heretic. :tsktsk:
 
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malcolm_davies:
In connection with the question of liturgical singing, the paper states that “musicians and poets should be encouraged to compose new hymns, according to liturgical standards, which contain authentic catechetical teaching on the paschal mystery, Sunday and the Eucharist.”

“Some responses,” it adds, “note** a certain eagerness in composing new songs, to the point of almost yielding to a consumer mentality, showing little concern for the quality of the music and text**, and easily overlooking the artistic patrimony which has been theologically and musically effective in the Church’s liturgy.”
So is this encouraging new hymns, or discourging new hymns?

What I get from this is that proper catachesis must be reflected in hymns, something that should already be a part of hymn selection. To this end one should model the way the lyrics of gregorian chants where used.

Also, some of the music used at Teen Masses should be proscribed as profane.
 
For me, Gregorian Chant is NOT conducive to prayer. It makes me want to cut my ears off with a chainsaw.
Well i guess we have different taste of music but in terms of church music i prefer chants. It is conducive in prayer.
Can you pray inside the church with very loud organs and choir singing or worst a band singing?.
 
Michael Welter:
What is conducive to prayer to one person, may not be conducive to prayer to another. That’s why the Church has always encouraged diversity in music, while maintaining sacredness in lyrics.
The Church has always encouraged the development of sacred music within prescribed bounds which musicians have almost always ignored. It’s been a constant struggle for the Church to get composers to put the “sacred” first in sacred music. Lyrics alone cannot make profane music sacred.
 
Anima Christi:
Learn how NOT to have bad taste in music, heretic. :tsktsk:
So much for charity…:whistle:

But still. I love chant. And it is totally better than Quaker hymns and/or contemporary ****.

God bless.
 
Michael Welter:
Well, that is sufficiently vague. :rolleyes:

For me, Gregorian Chant is NOT conducive to prayer. It makes me want to cut my ears off with a chainsaw. :eek:

What is conducive to prayer to one person, may not be conducive to prayer to another. That’s why the Church has always encouraged diversity in music, while maintaining sacredness in lyrics. If you are so unsatisfied with the catholic traditional hymns and music, and seek to be entertained in mass, feel free to go to the lutheran/protestant church.
 
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misericordie:
If you are so unsatisfied with the catholic traditional hymns and music, and seek to be entertained in mass, feel free to go to the lutheran/protestant church.
Why would anyone want to give up the body of Christ because of musical taste? Better to go o Mass and dislike the music. Music is not a reason to give up, or encourage anyone to give up, the true Christ.
 
Sounds like an excellent idea. About two thirds of the songs in the back half of the books we use at Mass are either awful in the lyrics or impossible for the untrained person to sing or both. Gregorian Chant is nice particularly if it can be rendered well in the vernacular otherwise it turns into a concert instead of worshipful prayer. I find it quite soothing and enjoyable to listen to it in Latin. I also like the St. Louis Jesuits and some of the other hymns based in scripture. Some of the early guitar stuff was sheer agony to sing or listen to and still maintain a worshipful spirit.
 
Hmmm and I suppose all that caterwauling that goes on under the guise of “praise music” does? To each his own, I suppose. As for me Gregorian chant does just fine…sacred polyphony is even better.
 
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