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Is anyone here familiar with the Liber Graduum, or Book of Steps? It’s a 4th century Syriac Christian guidebook, which is richly grounded in gospel texts as well as other apocryphal early Christian writing on the life of Christ our Lord.
The counsels it gives seem largely good ones, though the strict division between the ‘Upright’ and the ‘Perfect’ seems excessive. It’s not quite a division between laity and clergy, though there are clearly echoes of that. The problem is not that the Liber counts the perfect better, but that it seems to say that the Upright will not really inherit the same kind of paradise as the Perfect.
I know the Eastern Church doesn’t accept the conception of Purgatory advanced by the West, but the Liber has opened my mind to another possibility in Eastern Christianity, that of multiple heavens and hells. The Liber seems to suggest that even those in eternal torment will be more or less tormented depending on how they have lived, which is different to the conception of hell in the West, where the absence of any light from God’s presence is the ultimate torment, to which it is hard to imagine anything other than God making it better, nor anything really making it worse.
Does the Eastern Church teach that there are different heavens and different hells? Are these different levels fixed at death, or do some climb from lower to higher heavens? Will the joy of those in the lower heavens be less than perfect? Am I missing something here?
The counsels it gives seem largely good ones, though the strict division between the ‘Upright’ and the ‘Perfect’ seems excessive. It’s not quite a division between laity and clergy, though there are clearly echoes of that. The problem is not that the Liber counts the perfect better, but that it seems to say that the Upright will not really inherit the same kind of paradise as the Perfect.
I know the Eastern Church doesn’t accept the conception of Purgatory advanced by the West, but the Liber has opened my mind to another possibility in Eastern Christianity, that of multiple heavens and hells. The Liber seems to suggest that even those in eternal torment will be more or less tormented depending on how they have lived, which is different to the conception of hell in the West, where the absence of any light from God’s presence is the ultimate torment, to which it is hard to imagine anything other than God making it better, nor anything really making it worse.
Does the Eastern Church teach that there are different heavens and different hells? Are these different levels fixed at death, or do some climb from lower to higher heavens? Will the joy of those in the lower heavens be less than perfect? Am I missing something here?